To all of the recruiters who post here:  We always appreciate it, and we're
not trying to bash you.  But please, for your good and ours, some of you
need to do more research on what appropriate rates are for senior Remedy
developers, and make it clear to your customers that those rates are higher
than for a Java or C++ developer, because our skills are far more
specialized.

Remedy development is still the best bargain, even at BMC's rates, of any of
the Enterprise-level software to which I've been exposed.  Ever seen an SAP
deployment?  Dozens of people working on it at $200/hr. for years.  Remedy?
Five is a big team, and one-person teams certainly are not unheard of.
Projects are measured in weeks or months.

Senior level Remedy consultants are more than just bodies to be plugged into
a position.  We appreciate you partnering with us to make everyone pleased
with the value you and we provide.

Rick

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:42 AM, William Rentfrow <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ** The single worst rate I have ever seen was after the tech bubble burst
> in late 2001 or so - it was $35/hr all inclusive.
>
> I hope we're not headed that direction again....if so I may take up
> breadmaking or some other "tangible products" career :)
>
> William Rentfrow
> Principal Consultant, StrataCom Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 701-306-6157 C
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Joe DeSouza
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:18 PM
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Job: Remedy Developer (Mid Level) - Contract - Baltimore,
> MD - Kforce
>
> ** That really depends on the definition of 'qualified' people doesn't it.
> I mean why would someone who is really qualified (in the true sense of the
> word) accept something lesser than what he/she thinks she is capable of
> making. Especially when you know that the city you are going to be working
> in would not afford you even the bare minimum at 2200 a week, which leaves
> you with a fraction over 1500 after taxes.
>
> My average travel expense on this project is sometimes almost that much
> even at optimized rates as I do a corporate rate on both my hotels and my
> rental car to save a few hundred bucks. So what are you left with - like a
> 100 bucks a week if you accept 55 an hour all inclusive? It would be cheaper
> to work in social services at that rate and get a tax break!
>
> It would be nice to hear from people who accept those kind of rates on how
> they manage their economics! I know I sure as hell wouldn't be able to
> manage mine at those rates..
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2008 1:59:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Job: Remedy Developer (Mid Level) - Contract - Baltimore, MD -
> Kforce
>
> ** Well, it's all about what a willing seller and a willing buyer will
> agree to.  I don't see the logic in working for that kind of rate - many
> perm jobs pay more, with full benefits.  I guess pathetically low rates like
> this will be offered as long as qualified people accept them.  Others have
> to make their own choices, but times would have to be pretty bad for me to
> do so.
>
> Rick
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Joe DeSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> ** 55 in Baltimore is less than junior rates.. Gas is perhaps the most
>> expensive in the US in the DC / Virginia region - whats it like there now 4
>> buck 50 to a gallon? And if you choose to live in the outskirts of Baltimore
>> which might be cheaper on rents, you'll still end up paying the difference
>> on gas. And cost of living is almost as high as NY if not higher - with more
>> than 200 pubs to go to I can see how it can go pretty high :-)..
>>
>> Maybe someone from Baltimore would be in a better position to comment on
>> the cost of living there..
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Daniel Bloom on Sympatico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2008 6:33:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: Job: Remedy Developer (Mid Level) - Contract - Baltimore, MD
>> - Kforce
>>
>> At junior level rates.
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Thomas
>> Sent: October 8, 2008 8:34 PM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Job: Remedy Developer (Mid Level) - Contract - Baltimore, MD
>> - Kforce
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> Only Senior Level positions.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> ----- Start Original Message -----
>> Sent: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:31:31 -0400
>> From: "Kitchen, Joshua T"
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Job: Remedy Developer (Mid Level) - Contract - Baltimore, MD -
>> Kforce
>>
>> >
>> > **
>>
>> I have an 8 month contract here in Baltimore for another Remedy Developer.
>> They only need a mid level candidate. We can pay $45/hr on a W2 or $55/hr
>> C2C All Inclusive
>>
>> Visa Status: US Citizen, Green Card, TN-Visa, H1-B
>>
>> Remedy Developer:
>>
>> * 5+ years developing Remedy applications
>>
>> * 2 + years Implementing, and Customizing ITSM 6.0
>>
>> * 1+ years Implementing and customizing ITSM 7.0
>>
>> * Experience upgrading ITSM 6.0 to ITSM 7.0
>>
>> * Experience loading legacy data into ITSM 7.0
>>
>> * Experience developing Crystal Reports, SQL 2005 Reports
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Joshua Kitchen
>> Recruiter
>> Kforce Technology Staffing
>> Two Prestige Place
>> Suite 350
>> Miamisburg, Ohio 45342
>> 937.449.1749 Office
>> 937.461.6888 Fax
>> 937.416.3456 Cell
>> View my profile on LinkedIn
>> Search Dayton, Ohio Jobs today! http://www.kforce.com/tech-jobs-Ohio
>>
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