Guillaume,

I have not tested it with DS.(DevStudio)

This issue has been discussed on ARSList (and reported to the vendor)
multiple times across multiple version(AKA: years).

However, in previous Admin Tool version I think you will find that the
problem is actually a client timeout at the C API layer. Basically the
Application Server can not get the objects together in one big string
fast enough to return to the client before the client decides that the
server fell off the face of the planet.

And the last time I asked Tech support... there is no environment
setting that you can set to adjust the timeout. So there is no known
way to override the "reasonable" timeout when you know your doing
something that will take a very long time to complete.


In the past an approach to workaround this is to use things like
Driver, or an API program to loop over all of the objects and export
them one at a time.

Maybe DS fixed that problem? ( But it does not sound like it to me.)


What is amazing to me is that BMC Tech Support considers the fact that
you can not export all of the objects at one time to be a "performance
problem" and it is "the customers implementation" that is the root
cause of the condition. (AKA: They are not even willing to open a bug
against the version/API. So they take no responsibility and have no
interest in re-implementing anything to avoid the problem of "slow
customer hardware". And I have yet to have anyone from the company
confirm that they have hardware that can actually do the task either.)

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.


> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:03 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Anybody able to export all ITSM 7.x definitions with DevStudio?
>
> **
>
> This is very frustrating and something that I hoped it was going to be
> addressed in DevStudio.
> I cannot export all the ITSM 7.5 definitions with DevStudio in one export
> operation. I cannot even export all the forms in one operation with
> DevStudio, I get an out of memory error, that I attached. My PC has 4 GBs of
> memory with 8 processors, so it's definitely not a resource issue on my
> side, it's probably the DevStudio JRE that ran out of memory.
>
> I really hate it not to be able to do a full definitions export in one shot:
> you have to split the export in multiple chunks, which makes the management
> of the def files much harder, it more much more time consuming because of
> you have to monitor the exports and initiate a new one once the previous
> completed, etc.
>
> When is BMC going to fully address and correct this?? It seems to me the
> backup of the application code at the application level is ESSENTIAL. I was
> really hoping that DevStudio would fix this very significant problem, but it
> it did not happen. How can you do effective release management and
> application version control if you cannot even efficiently and effectively
> export the definitions??
>
> For what it's worth, we have ITSM 7.5.1, where the app server is running on
> Windows 2003 and the database is remote, it's 10gR2 running on Solaris 10.
> My PC has Windows XP.
>
> Has anybody been successful in exporting all the defs of ITSM 7.5 in one
> export operation?
>
> -Guillaume

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