Here's something to think about. When you are using the RUT, you are going 
directly to the ARS Server. If the RUT is done away with, you have to go from 
your desk top to the mid-tier to get to the server.  I look at this as one more 
point of failure.  One area that it would help is not having to worry if the 
end users are on the current version/patch of the RUT.

Mark

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:43 PM
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Subject: Re: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)


Thanks for the clarification David. However, I just logged into our production 
system, and the change form (CHG:Infrastructure Change) does not show this on 
search mode. Do I need to enable something? We have ITSM 7.51

Thanks Guillaume


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Subject: Re: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)

Ø  This is not true. For instance, there are no Recent Searches or My Searches 
on the mid-tier

Just a quick correction - yes there are.

BMC Remedy Action Request System 7.5.00 BMC Remedy Mid Tier Guide
16-Jan-2009 
PDF<http://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/53/72/95372/95372.pdf>

Page 144:

"To run a saved, recent, or defined search
1 From the toolbar, choose Searches > Run My Searches, Run Recent, or Run 
Defined.

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Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:45 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)

**

This is very very bad.
Here are some statements that are not true in our environment, where wer are 
using RS 7.5, Mid-tier, ITSM 7.5.1:

>I've heard that use of a thick client is the only way to get good performance. 
>What will >happen to performance if I can't use the Remedy User client anymore?
>o Due to advances in web technologies, especially in the area of JavaScript 
>engines, the >performance of the web client in AR System 7.5.00 running in a 
>modern browser equals or >exceeds the performance of BMC Remedy User. BMC 
>expects, therefore, that any future client >will meet or exceed any 
>performance characteristics of the existing Remedy User client.

THIS IS NOT TRUE. The Remedy user tool 7.5 performs faster than mid-tier 
7.5/browser. Granted IE 7.x is a piece of crap, so that's a big part of the 
problem; However, the Remedy fat client still outperforms even Firefox 3.x.

Pre-caching in ITSM 7.5.1 and Mid-Tier 7.5 is a major headache and it is buggy.


>Will I lose any functionality using the new client as compared to my use of 
>Remedy User client?
>No. The future client provided will enable full usability of AR System or 
>applications built >on AR System. The manner in which such usability is 
>provided may change (e.g. OLE/DDE are not >available on web-based clients and 
>report macros are accomplished through saved searches) but >full functionality 
>will be provided.

This is not true. For instance, there are no Recent Searches or My Searches on 
the mid-tier

-Guillaume


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Jarl Grøneng
Sent: Fri 10/02/09 12:22 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)

BMC Remedy AR System 8.0.00 is expected to be the last major release
of AR System to include the Remedy User client.

http://documents.bmc.com/products/documents/61/94/106194/106194.pdf

--
Jarl

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