Another way to look at is you can firewall off your ARS server and only
allow connections for hosts that support the server and the Mid-Tiers.  It
could be a security boost  :)

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Brittain, Mark <mbritt...@navisite.com>wrote:

> **
>
> Here’s something to think about. When you are using the RUT, you are going
> directly to the ARS Server. If the RUT is done away with, you have to go
> from your desk top to the mid-tier to get to the server.  I look at this as
> one more point of failure.  One area that it would help is not having to
> worry if the end users are on the current version/patch of the RUT.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Guillaume Rheault
> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2009 3:43 PM
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based
> client)
>
>
>
> Thanks for the clarification David. However, I just logged into our
> production system, and the change form (CHG:Infrastructure Change) does not
> show this on search mode. Do I need to enable something? We have ITSM 7.51
>
> Thanks Guillaume
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Easter,
> David
> Sent: Fri 10/02/09 2:55 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)
>
> Ø  This is not true. For instance, there are no Recent Searches or My
> Searches on the mid-tier
>
> Just a quick correction - yes there are.
>
> BMC Remedy Action Request System 7.5.00 BMC Remedy Mid Tier Guide
> 16-Jan-2009 PDF<
> http://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/53/72/95372/95372.pdf>
>
> Page 144:
>
> "To run a saved, recent, or defined search
> 1 From the toolbar, choose Searches > Run My Searches, Run Recent, or Run
> Defined.
>
> [cid:image003.png@01CA4357.44051540]"
>
>
> -David J. Easter
> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
> BMC Software, Inc.
>
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> Inc.
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Guillaume
> Rheault
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:45 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)
>
> **
>
> This is very very bad.
> Here are some statements that are not true in our environment, where wer
> are using RS 7.5, Mid-tier, ITSM 7.5.1:
>
> >I've heard that use of a thick client is the only way to get good
> performance. What will >happen to performance if I can't use the Remedy User
> client anymore?
> >o Due to advances in web technologies, especially in the area of
> JavaScript engines, the >performance of the web client in AR System 7.5.00
> running in a modern browser equals or >exceeds the performance of BMC Remedy
> User. BMC expects, therefore, that any future client >will meet or exceed
> any performance characteristics of the existing Remedy User client.
>
> THIS IS NOT TRUE. The Remedy user tool 7.5 performs faster than mid-tier
> 7.5/browser. Granted IE 7.x is a piece of crap, so that's a big part of the
> problem; However, the Remedy fat client still outperforms even Firefox 3.x.
>
> Pre-caching in ITSM 7.5.1 and Mid-Tier 7.5 is a major headache and it is
> buggy.
>
>
> >Will I lose any functionality using the new client as compared to my use
> of Remedy User client?
> >No. The future client provided will enable full usability of AR System or
> applications built >on AR System. The manner in which such usability is
> provided may change (e.g. OLE/DDE are not >available on web-based clients
> and report macros are accomplished through saved searches) but >full
> functionality will be provided.
>
> This is not true. For instance, there are no Recent Searches or My Searches
> on the mid-tier
>
> -Guillaume
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Jarl
> Grøneng
> Sent: Fri 10/02/09 12:22 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)
>
> BMC Remedy AR System 8.0.00 is expected to be the last major release
> of AR System to include the Remedy User client.
>
> http://documents.bmc.com/products/documents/61/94/106194/106194.pdf
>
> --
> Jarl
>
>
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