When you use the Remedy User Tool, you go to the RUT, then you go to
the ARServer.  When you use the MT, you go to the MT, then you go to
the ARServer.  The location of the client is just different; instead
of your workstation, it is a j2ee platform on a server.

Axton

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Brittain, Mark <mbritt...@navisite.com> wrote:
> **
>
> Here’s something to think about. When you are using the RUT, you are going
> directly to the ARS Server. If the RUT is done away with, you have to go
> from your desk top to the mid-tier to get to the server.  I look at this as
> one more point of failure.  One area that it would help is not having to
> worry if the end users are on the current version/patch of the RUT.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:43 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)
>
>
>
> Thanks for the clarification David. However, I just logged into our
> production system, and the change form (CHG:Infrastructure Change) does not
> show this on search mode. Do I need to enable something? We have ITSM 7.51
>
> Thanks Guillaume
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Easter,
> David
> Sent: Fri 10/02/09 2:55 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)
>
> Ø  This is not true. For instance, there are no Recent Searches or My
> Searches on the mid-tier
>
> Just a quick correction - yes there are.
>
> BMC Remedy Action Request System 7.5.00 BMC Remedy Mid Tier Guide
> 16-Jan-2009
> PDF<http://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/53/72/95372/95372.pdf>
>
> Page 144:
>
> "To run a saved, recent, or defined search
> 1 From the toolbar, choose Searches > Run My Searches, Run Recent, or Run
> Defined.
>
> [cid:image003.png@01CA4357.44051540]"
>
>
> -David J. Easter
> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
> BMC Software, Inc.
>
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> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:45 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)
>
> **
>
> This is very very bad.
> Here are some statements that are not true in our environment, where wer are
> using RS 7.5, Mid-tier, ITSM 7.5.1:
>
>>I've heard that use of a thick client is the only way to get good
>> performance. What will >happen to performance if I can't use the Remedy User
>> client anymore?
>>o Due to advances in web technologies, especially in the area of JavaScript
>> engines, the >performance of the web client in AR System 7.5.00 running in a
>> modern browser equals or >exceeds the performance of BMC Remedy User. BMC
>> expects, therefore, that any future client >will meet or exceed any
>> performance characteristics of the existing Remedy User client.
>
> THIS IS NOT TRUE. The Remedy user tool 7.5 performs faster than mid-tier
> 7.5/browser. Granted IE 7.x is a piece of crap, so that's a big part of the
> problem; However, the Remedy fat client still outperforms even Firefox 3.x.
>
> Pre-caching in ITSM 7.5.1 and Mid-Tier 7.5 is a major headache and it is
> buggy.
>
>
>>Will I lose any functionality using the new client as compared to my use of
>> Remedy User client?
>>No. The future client provided will enable full usability of AR System or
>> applications built >on AR System. The manner in which such usability is
>> provided may change (e.g. OLE/DDE are not >available on web-based clients
>> and report macros are accomplished through saved searches) but >full
>> functionality will be provided.
>
> This is not true. For instance, there are no Recent Searches or My Searches
> on the mid-tier
>
> -Guillaume
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Jarl
> Grøneng
> Sent: Fri 10/02/09 12:22 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: End of Life for BMC(R) Remedy(R) User (Windows-based client)
>
> BMC Remedy AR System 8.0.00 is expected to be the last major release
> of AR System to include the Remedy User client.
>
> http://documents.bmc.com/products/documents/61/94/106194/106194.pdf
>
> --
> Jarl
>
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