I would export tables
Import into another db , hook up an ars and clean it up. 

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On Oct 14, 2011, at 3:13 PM, JD Hood <hood...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ** Having a really weird issue at a client where, when you restart the AR 
> Server service (not every time, but at random nth restarts)...
> - Random forms fail to load in the server (won't list in client & won't list 
> in the Admin tool, but T,H,B tables are still there with data)
> - Random fields vanish on forms
> - All guides (filter & active link) fail to load
> - could be some other probs, but we didn't look as we have our hands full 
> dealing with the first three
> 
> The first time this occurred, we found that the numfields value in ARSCHEMA 
> table did not agree with the rowcount in the FIELD table for some CMDB forms 
> (AST: forms). The problem has occurred three times over as many weeks and 
> restoring the DB from backup each time it happens is not feasible as along 
> term resolution -- we need to figure out the root cause. The site is secure 
> and sharing logs, screenshots or webexing is not allowed, so troubleshooting 
> is problematic.
> 
> I mentioned the symptoms to a colleague and it prompted a vague memory of 
> some issue between an earlier version of ARS and Oracle-RAC, even though the 
> versions were listed as compatible. BMC support can't find any mention and so 
> far (considering the site security restrictions) have only been treating the 
> symptoms. BMC support seems to think the problem is running multiple class 
> manager jobs at the same time, but we aren't doing that. The last time it 
> happened, the system came back up with a *bunch* of corrupted forms (bad 
> field counts between arschema and field tables for a variety of forms) and a 
> "change pending" class manager job showed up out of nowhere -- before system 
> restart, we weren't doing anything in class manager / class manager was idle.
> 
> In trying to make sense of this, I can only imagine that ARS starts up and 
> connects to the Oracle-RAC cluster in such a screwed-up fashion that it 
> either retrieves (or causes RAC to return) pieces of the database from 
> different points in time -OR- skips parts of the DB -OR- the Oracle-RAC 
> cluster is not keeping itself in sync like we think -OR- 
> <heck-if-i-know-feel-free-to-guess>. All I can say is I've never encountered 
> the behavior before and it's beyond weird.
> 
> Two questions: 
> 1. Disregarding the issues I've mentioned, does anyone recall ANY (and I mean 
> *any*) issues between Oracle-RAC and any version of ARS? It's the only clue 
> we have at this point and I'm grasping at straws.
> 
> 2. Has anybody experienced the described weirdness, regardless of ARS version?
> 
> Thanks,
> JDHood
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