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On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 18:02, Andrew C Goodall <ago...@jcpenney.com> wrote:

> ** ** ** ** **
>
> It blows me away how much manual effort we “the customer” have to go
> through to check that the product we purchased is working as intended /
> designed!!!****
>
> Firstly, the onus should be on BMC to provide this capability for its own
> product, secondly if the product was stable and robust perhaps we wouldn’t
> have to do all this monitoring!****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,****
>
>  ****
>
> *Andrew Goodall*****
>
> Software Engineer 2 | Development Services |  jcpenney . www.jcp.com 
> <http://www.jcp.com/>
> ****
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:**
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG**] *On Behalf Of *Garrison, Sean (Norcross)
> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2012 10:57 AM
>
> *To:* **arslist@ARSLIST.ORG**
> *Subject:* Re: Server 'Alive' check
> ****
>
>  ** **
>
> Additional things to check:****
>
> ** **
>
> NTE:****SYS** **NT**** Process Control – is the queue building up and not
> clearing out?****
>
> Application Pending -- is the queue building up and not clearing out?****
>
> CAI:Events – is the queue building up and not clearing out?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> Sean****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:**
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG**] *On Behalf Of *LJ LongWing
> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2012 11:31 AM
> *To:* **arslist@ARSLIST.ORG**
> *Subject:* Re: Server 'Alive' check****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> Ah….good point, I hadn’t considered that J****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *Campbell,
> Paul (Paul)
> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2012 8:59 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Server 'Alive' check****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> You may want to make sure your script is not using a user in the
> Administrator group, so that if for some reason you want to put a server in
> Admin Only mode, your script would return a failure and have the
> loadbalancer remove the server from the load balanced group if you set
> admin only mode to on, something I wish we had done at our installation.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *LJ
> LongWing
> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2012 10:02 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Server 'Alive' check****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> Well…in my situation, I have a Server Group…so the effort that I’m working
> on is to make my Load Balancer ‘smarter’ so that I can take a node out of
> rotation if it’s not working, so this particular approach wouldn’t quite
> work for me, but I agree that in a ‘manual’ manner, it seems to be a
> reasonable scenario J****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *strauss
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:28 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Server 'Alive' check****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> I am usually satisfied with watching the AR System Email Messages form
> from the User Tool – I keep an open session on a work desktop that
> refreshes an open query for Send Message = “Yes” every 5 minutes, and
> another open query for Message Type = “Outgoing” where I can refresh to see
> all outbound traffic.  If I remote in to look at it and see a miscellaneous
> tli error dialog, SOMETHING blocked the connection, at least momentarily,
> and I start troubleshooting from there by clearing the dialog.****
>
> ** **
>
> A method that requires even less effort is that I also have a folder in my
> mailbox that gets copies of notifications to the central Helpdesk, where I
> am an Associate Member.  If there is recent traffic (unread mail in that
> folder), there isn’t a problem.  Basically, if people are entering tickets
> via one of the mid-tiers or Kinetic Request, and notifications (or
> escalations) are going out, it’s working. A corollary benefit of this is
> that I see outage notifications and maintain an awareness of what kinds of
> tickets are being entered by both support staff and customers.****
>
> ** **
>
> That may not be what you are looking for, but it works for us.****
>
> ** **
>
> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
> Call Tracking Administration Manager
> ****University of North** **Texas**** Computing & IT Center
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>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *LJ
> LongWing
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:12 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Server 'Alive' check****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> Listers,****
>
> As we have discussed several times in the past a simple ‘port check’ isn’t
> sufficient to tell you that your server is ‘alive’.  I’m looking for
> assistance with ‘what do you check’ when you are checking to see if your
> remedy server is alive and healthy.  I’m not looking to check the MidTier
> in this effort…just the **Remedy** server itself.  So far I have my
> script performing the following actions****
>
> ** **
>
> **-          **Login****
>
> **-          **Search User Form****
>
> **-          **Execute Service****
>
> ** **
>
> The first of course ensures that the server is processing logins****
>
> The second asks the remedy server to connect to the DB and return results*
> ***
>
> The third ‘exercises’ it just a bit, asking it to do some things that one
> of our services does, and return a result****
>
> ** **
>
> These are of course just a small sampling of things I can have my script
> do…I was looking to the list to see if you have any ‘oh yea, that’s a good
> check’ type of things that you typically do when embarking on this type of
> effort. ****
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