DETAIL QUESTION (to Joe, Saby, .... and everybody else ;-) ):
Don't you feel the need to select the properties that will be documented
in the CSV?
Granularity?
Kaïs
On 19/06/2012 17:12, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote:
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Didn’t know you’ll already created that capacity..
I wonder why BMC developers didn’t think that would be a useful
feature to have on the Dev Studio itself.
I wonder if there is a plugin available (just like the unsupported one
for creating overlay of multiple views) where you could retrieve the
original object from the overlaid.. That would be a so nice to have
feature on the Dev Studio itself. It would save so much time
especially when developers change hands or if customization has been
more than 5% of all the objects when its almost impossible to remember
what was changed..
Joe
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*Subject:* Re: Export definitions to CSV file
** Thanks for your input.
With ARSmarts, we brought it so far that you can:
- compare Overlay with Overlaid
- produce a detailed documentation of the comparison result in HTML
- produce a basic report in CSV (Object Name, Type of difference)
The next question is: what else would be useful ? What columns would
you like to see in the CSV doc?
Kaïs
On 19/06/2012 16:48, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote:
**
Kais,
Got you.. I should have guessed you were aiming it at management. But
since meta data reports are generally more useful to developers, I
was wondering what value it would serve a developer who may already
be capable of reading XML.
In reference to the new version, assuming that I was management
incapable of reading XML, I might have found a report of overlaid
objects compared with its original useful to see what may have been
changed on a excel sheet.. This actually would be useful to a
developer too as once an object has been overlaid and changes have
been made, even a developer looses visibility of the original object
– unless he deletes the overlay... This is my most spontaneous
thought that came to mind given your explanation on grounds you wish
to cover...
Cheers
Joe
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*Subject:* Re: Export definitions to CSV file
** Hi Joe,
Most managers and non-technical people do not read XML.
Also, we are thinking of exporting in CSV format such things as the
result of a Search or the result of a Compare operation.
Finally, we would like to offer the possibility to export only some
properties of the objects.
Maybe an example will clear things up: a customer wanted a list of
all the notifications sent by a Remedy application, and wanted to
know in what circumstances these notifications were sent. We
produced a CSV file, with the name of the Filters, the Run If
condition, and the Notification details.
Kaïs
On 19/06/2012 16:22, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote:
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Just curious as to why an output to a CSV would this be useful when
we can already output the definition files to XML and pretty much
see all we need to in a fairly decent ‘human readable format’?
Joe
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*Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:17 AM
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*Subject:* Export definitions to CSV file
** Hello List,
At ARSmarts, we are currently developing an « Export definitions to
CSV » functionality. In version 2.8.1 (just released), we
implemented a basic version of this functionality that allows to
export the content of a grid to a CSV file.This is a start, but
certainly not enough.
Now, here is where we can use your input: in order to build a really
useful functionality, we need to know what objects you would like to
see in the CSV file? What properties of what objects ...? In what
situations would you like to use CSV documentation? In short: what
are your needs.
Looking forward to hear from you all.
Kaïs
kais.albas...@arsmarts.com
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