I agree with Ray that this may not be a 'technical' topic but its not off topic either (unless off course Dan disagrees :-) )

Its healthy for us to get a feel of what the current market rates are. I know it all depends on experience and all that good stuff too.. But in this changing market times, its very easy to get short changed if we do not have room for discussing such things openly..

In my experience on this topic I think a good healthy rate these days is about of 110 - 115.. - pad in local travel and expenses and that computes to about 125 - 130..

110 - 115 + T&E when there is commute involved would be a good rate for remote projects.

I know BMC charges about 250/hr if its consultants are sent on site.. Any idea of what they charge if the project would require only offsite resource?

Joe

-----Original Message----- From: Ray Palla Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:54 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Actually Pritch;

The "On-Behalf of" post had this: Petrie-Smith, Emma
[epetr...@teksystems.com]

After contacting her directly (off-the-list) and understanding her position, I gave her the same response that I then posted on the list. Just my 2-cents. I believe these things should be openly discussed in the ARSlist. After all, rates and supply/demand are very relevant for all of us.

You might do it for $50, but there are a lot of listers who just don't have to. That said, I'm trying to help recruiters understand the current market and what it takes to get the best guy for the job. In the case of KS, I wouldn't recommend to them that they try to fix a late running project with anything other than a senior guy. We are talking 7.6.04 here.

R

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:17 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

Youd probably get several folks willing to do the $50 per hour for a remote gig, but you'd need to have another way to contact the requester. They didn't put an alternate contact on the initial email and most folks are aware to not respond to this type of item directly on the ARSlist.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Palla" <ray.pa...@insona.com>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:03:03 PM
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote

**
You're right Tauf;

Also, this is a mostly remote gig. That is a huge plus! I would quote $97.50/hr + T&E on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks.

R


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote


** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the Country Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :)


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla < ray.pa...@insona.com > wrote:


**

TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this.

Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally... This customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects is over $110/hr + T&E... BMC charges $250/hr. A short term like this one will be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being competitive. The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there are many more 'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from.

R


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Petrie-Smith, Emma
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM


To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote




**


I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more
funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J



Thanks for reaching out.



Emma





Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074  ? T (913) 664-0105
F (913) 338-2435


http://www.teksystems.com








From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:36 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote



** Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting comment:
"It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY need this
done by this date."
Thanks for the clarification!


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma <
epetr...@teksystems.com > wrote:

**



Hi Tauf,



It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover
funding allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but it’s
the best our client can do. They are in a crunch to reach their deadline.



And I didn’t realize I had responded to the entire Arslist earlier. I meant
to respond to just that one person. Whoops! And it is an additional
resource, not a replacement.



Thanks,


Emma





Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074   ? T (913) 664-0105
F (913) 338-2435











From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:22 AM




To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote





**


50/hr sounds very weak. Is that because it's in Kansas?

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:19 AM, "Goodall, Andrew C" < ago...@jcp.com > wrote:




**

Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement :S





Regards,



Andrew C. Goodall

Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

jcpenney

6501 Legacy Drive

Plano, TX 75024

jcp.com




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@arslist.org ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:17 AM
To: arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote



**


Aye aye aye...

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:15 AM, "Petrie-Smith, Emma" < epetr...@teksystems.com
wrote:




**

Hi Alan,



It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. J



Emma





Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER
7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS  66213
O (800) 318-2074   ? T (913) 664-0105
F (913) 338-2435


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Alan Truelove
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:02 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote



**



Yes v interested....







From: Emma Petrie-Smith < epetr...@teksystems.com >
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: 6-8 project - Remote


Good morning,

We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract with
our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.)  Our client would
need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would allow
remote work after the selected candidate is onboarded. This is the perfect
opportunity for someone with another project going on to make some extra
money, and get exposure to a high profile project for a recognizable
company.

Remedy developer is needed to assist our client in the development of a VPN.
This consultant will help in the design and development of a ticketing
application to help secure and provide network hardware. It is a custom
application, so any experience with customization would be beneficial.

Skills needed:
- At least 5 years experience developing within BMC Remedy
- Minimum of 7 years total development experience
- Database experience with Oracle and/or SQL
- Strong communication, written and verbal a must
- Ability to work within a team environment

Candidates must be able to work on a W2 basis directly with TEKsystems. We
are able to pay between 45-50/hour for this project. Client is looking to
start the interview process next week—this process will move quickly.

Please respond if you are interested. All qualified candidates will be
followed up with immediately.

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