What about rates for full time permanent employees? It looks like most of the rates discussed are for consulting type gigs. I am curious what people think the rate for a FTE working for the same company day in day out.
Jason On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ken Pritchard <pri...@ptd.net> wrote: > I doubt the BMC folks that actually do the work get 110-115 per hour. > There may be a few top notch individuals that can garner that type of > salary, but I'd guess that most Remedy Dev/Admiins are earning about a > third or so of that. Based on the conversations I've had with several > recruiters recently (many of which post their openings on this list) folks > are lucky right now to get half that amount. I'm not suggesting I'm as > talented as most on this board, but speaking as an average person the rates > below don't sound very realistic. > > Rather than a couple top level developers putting out the info, maybe we > could hear from some of the recruiters that are reading this regarding the > rates they are seeing. > > > ----- Original Message -----From: "Joe Martin D'Souza" <jdso...@shyle.net> > Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general > To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 4:13 PM > > Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote > > > I agree with Ray that this may not be a 'technical' topic but its not off >> topic either (unless off course Dan disagrees :-) ) >> >> Its healthy for us to get a feel of what the current market rates are. I >> know it all depends on experience and all that good stuff too.. But in this >> changing market times, its very easy to get short changed if we do not have >> room for discussing such things openly.. >> >> In my experience on this topic I think a good healthy rate these days is >> about of 110 - 115.. - pad in local travel and expenses and that computes >> to about 125 - 130.. >> >> 110 - 115 + T&E when there is commute involved would be a good rate for >> remote projects. >> >> I know BMC charges about 250/hr if its consultants are sent on site.. Any >> idea of what they charge if the project would require only offsite resource? >> >> Joe >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Ray Palla >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:54 PM Newsgroups: >> public.remedy.arsystem.general >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote >> >> Actually Pritch; >> >> The "On-Behalf of" post had this: Petrie-Smith, Emma >> [epetr...@teksystems.com] >> >> After contacting her directly (off-the-list) and understanding her >> position, I gave her the same response that I then posted on the list. Just >> my 2-cents. I believe these things should be openly discussed in the >> ARSlist. After all, rates and supply/demand are very relevant for all of us. >> >> You might do it for $50, but there are a lot of listers who just don't >> have to. That said, I'm trying to help recruiters understand the current >> market and what it takes to get the best guy for the job. In the case of >> KS, I wouldn't recommend to them that they try to fix a late running >> project with anything other than a senior guy. We are talking 7.6.04 here. >> >> R >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:17 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote >> >> Youd probably get several folks willing to do the $50 per hour for a >> remote gig, but you'd need to have another way to contact the requester. >> They didn't put an alternate contact on the initial email and most folks >> are aware to not respond to this type of item directly on the ARSlist. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray Palla" <ray.pa...@insona.com> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:03:03 PM >> Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote >> >> ** >> You're right Tauf; >> >> Also, this is a mostly remote gig. That is a huge plus! I would quote >> $97.50/hr + T&E on this one and happily go there for a few short weeks. >> >> R >> >> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:55 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote >> >> >> ** Ray I almost totally agree with you except for that Overland Park and >> Kansas City, MO in general is a really nice place... especially the Country >> Club Plaza area. Compared to St. Louis, it's night and day. If any of you >> have a chance, don't say no just because it's Kansas. It's really a cool >> place... this coming from a native and current New Yorker :) >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ray Palla < ray.pa...@insona.com > >> wrote: >> >> >> ** >> >> TEKsystems is usually more aware the market than this. >> >> Although, customer expectation is sometimes hard to set, externally... >> This customer needs to know that the current market for long-term projects >> is over $110/hr + T&E... BMC charges $250/hr. A short term like this one >> will be much more difficult to find a placement, in terms of being >> competitive. The Remedy market is currently at a premium and there are many >> more 'exciting' cities to cherry-pick from. >> >> R >> >> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Petrie-Smith, Emma >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:38 AM >> >> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> I agree, it seems like backwards logic. Trust me, I’d like to create more >> funding and pay more. It’d make my job much easier J >> >> >> >> Thanks for reaching out. >> >> >> >> Emma >> >> >> >> >> >> Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER >> 7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS 66213 >> O (800) 318-2074 ? T (913) 664-0105 >> F (913) 338-2435 >> >> >> http://www.teksystems.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:36 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote >> >> >> >> ** Don't take this personally but I always find that an interesting >> comment: >> "It's a low rate because that's all we can afford, but we REALLY need this >> done by this date." >> Thanks for the clarification! >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Petrie-Smith, Emma < >> epetr...@teksystems.com > wrote: >> >> ** >> >> >> >> Hi Tauf, >> >> >> >> It is partially, and they are funding this position with the leftover >> funding allocated to this project. It’s lower than the normal rate, but >> it’s >> the best our client can do. They are in a crunch to reach their deadline. >> >> >> >> And I didn’t realize I had responded to the entire Arslist earlier. I >> meant >> to respond to just that one person. Whoops! And it is an additional >> resource, not a replacement. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Emma >> >> >> >> >> >> Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER >> 7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS 66213 >> O (800) 318-2074 ? T (913) 664-0105 >> F (913) 338-2435 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:22 AM >> >> >> >> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> 50/hr sounds very weak. Is that because it's in Kansas? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:19 AM, "Goodall, Andrew C" < ago...@jcp.com > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> Hopefully it is in addition not a replacement :S >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Andrew C. Goodall >> >> Software Engineer >> >> Development Services >> >> ago...@jcpenney.com >> >> jcpenney >> >> 6501 Legacy Drive >> >> Plano, TX 75024 >> >> jcp.com >> >> >> >> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@arslist.org ] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:17 AM >> To: arslist@arslist.org >> Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> Aye aye aye... >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:15 AM, "Petrie-Smith, Emma" < >> epetr...@teksystems.com >> >>> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> Hi Alan, >> >> >> >> It is the same project you are working on for Sprint. J >> >> >> >> Emma >> >> >> >> >> >> Emma Petrie-Smith RECRUITER >> 7285 W. 132ND ST., STE. 140 OVERLAND PARK, KS 66213 >> O (800) 318-2074 ? T (913) 664-0105 >> F (913) 338-2435 >> >> >> <image001.gif> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Alan Truelove >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:02 AM >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Re: 6-8 project - Remote >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> >> Yes v interested.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Emma Petrie-Smith < epetr...@teksystems.com > >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM >> Subject: 6-8 project - Remote >> >> >> Good morning, >> >> We are currently looking for a Remedy developer for a 6-8 week contract >> with >> our client in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City metro area.) Our client >> would >> need to have someone on site for a brief initial period, but would allow >> remote work after the selected candidate is onboarded. 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