The patches all ran fine for me after a clean install of the individual 
components.

 

I didn’t use the stack installer as in 7.6 it contained loads of language packs 
that affect the running of the system on a VM on a laptop. I assume this is the 
same on V8?

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of strauss
Sent: 04 October 2012 16:05
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: New Remedy Release 8.0 - Great feedback about 
product from one key customer of BMC Software

 

** 

Tried that; twice. Each time the patch blew up, and I opened an Issue on it.

 

This is on a stack install of 8.0 on a clean 2008 R2/SQL 2008 VM set. The stack 
install seemed to go perfectly. Two shots at the ARS patch – two failures to 
install, and I gave up.  I cannot tell if it actually corrupted the ARS 8.0 
installation, but the mid-tier hung and threw errors repeatedly yesterday.  
It’s on a separately installed Tomcat 6.0.35 instance that is set up EXACTLY 
like the ones we have in production with 7.6.04.03, but it seemed to have 
caching problems even after a full preload then turning preload off.

 

So I am wishing that I had NOT tried to run the patch 001 installer immediately 
after the 8.0.00 stack install.

 

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/ 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:43 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: New Remedy Release 8.0 - Great feedback about 
product from one key customer of BMC Software

 

** 

Yes – Patch 001 released at exactly the same time as 8.0.00.   Obviously, the 
recommendation is to load Patch 001 right after installing / upgrading to 
8.0.00.

 

-David J. Easter

Manager of Product Management, AR System

BSM & Atrium Solutions Management

BMC Software, Inc.

 

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Bruce Sisk
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: New Remedy Release 8.0 - Great feedback about 
product from one key customer of BMC Software

 

** 

It seems there is a 8.0 patch 1 ars download available...

 



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On Sep 26, 2012, at 1:51 PM, "Goodall, Andrew C" <ago...@jcp.com> wrote:

** 

Couldn’t agree more Natalie. I’ve worked with many software vendors over the 
years and BMC seem to have the most bugs or “working as designed” excuses I’ve 
ever seen.

This is one area I truly wish BMC would pursue to improve with a passion.

 

Regards,

 

Andrew C. Goodall

Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

jcpenney

6501 Legacy Drive

Plano, TX 75024

jcp.com

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Stroud, Natalie K
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:40 PM
To: arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: New Remedy Release 8.0 - Great feedback about 
product from one key customer of BMC Software

 

** 

Don’t get me started on the topic of BMC’s QA process for ITSM, LOL.   I do QA 
as opposed to development for our Remedy team, and while I do appreciate that 
it’s difficult to do QA well (and I think perhaps harder when you have 
different server OSes, DB languages, etc. all supported combinations of which 
have to play nicely together – we at least have just the one server OS and DB 
language to worry about), it’s definitely an area that BMC could stand to 
improve.  Their testing appears to me to lack thoroughness (i.e. testing all 
the different places where a given action can be done – such as creating 
relationships between tickets, which can be done in 3 different places I know 
of offhand in Incident Management alone), does not appear to look at 
consistency of behavior of common fields like the Work Info or Notes fields or 
how the same information is presented between modules (in 7.6.04 SP2, try doing 
a Prod Cat search for a term that should have multiple matches in both Incident 
and Change Management for an example of what I mean), and at times appears not 
to include the practice of regression testing.

 

Does anybody know if they have a dedicated QA team for ITSM?  Or do they just 
have teams of various people for whom testing is one among many duties?  If the 
latter is true, it would certainly explain some of the holes I’ve seen in their 
product.  

 

Natalie Stroud

SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories

ARS-ITSM Tester

Albuquerque, NM USA

nkst...@sandia.gov

ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2008 – SQL Server 2008

 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Goodall, Andrew C
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:53 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: New Remedy Release 8.0 - Great feedback about product 
from one key customer of BMC Software

 

** 

You know roofers and painters give you a discount on their products and 
services if you post a sign in your drive way ;)

 

I’m sure he’s a good honest guy – we’ll just have to find out for ourselves. 
Personally wouldn’t touch it until patch 3 or above.

I’d be interested to know the recorded defect rate on all product versions and 
patch releases to date and if it starts to fall – now that would be encouraging 
that BMC has improved their QA process.

 

Regards,

 

Andrew C. Goodall

Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

jcpenney

6501 Legacy Drive

Plano, TX 75024

jcp.com

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of jham36
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:41 AM
To: arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: New Remedy Release 8.0 - Great feedback about product from one key 
customer of BMC Software

 

** I find it interesting that there is another post..... word for word, the 
same as this one from another user

 

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/arslist/ICHKYCM67lE 

On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:11:39 AM UTC-4, Hullule, Kiran wrote:

Hi Misi, 

This includes Platform components and ITSM application. 

Best Regards 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:ars...@arslist.org 
<javascript:> ] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:12 PM 
To: ars...@arslist.org <javascript:>  
Subject: Re: New Remedy Release 8.0 - Great feedback about product from one key 
customer of BMC Software 

Hi, 

Even better than 5.1.2 and 6.3? 

Are you talking about the Remedy Core AR Server here, or are you referring 
to applications as well? Or maybe the client (in this case Mid-Tier)? 

        Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) 

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> Congratulations to the BMC Team on the 8.0 GA! 
> We participated in BMC's Select Market Availability (early release) 
> program and has been running 8.0 in production since September 4th. 
> There are some great new features in 8.0 (redesigned SRM interface, Social 
> Collaboration, Email Rules Engine, Copy/Paste Workflow elements, 
> Wiki-style documentation, and many more) that we're really excited about. 
> 
> We upgraded from ITSM 7.6.00 over the summer and 8.0 has been one of the 
> most stable releases I can remember in my 12+ years developing Remedy 
> applications. 
> I definitely recommend everyone take a hard look and start planning your 
> next upgrade sooner than later. 
> 
> Happy about this release. 
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