when you Visualize you should have the Vmotion ability to move from host to host, which eliminates this from the equation. But I must be living in a perfect world.... the world of a real "Data Center".... I know the realities...
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Jim Coryat (jcoryat) <jcor...@micron.com>wrote: > Not always true Misi. > > We have virtualized our Remedy environment and so we don't have hardware > constraints per se. This not 100% of the time when you consider updating > the OS on the virtual host but that is less often than an application > update. I agree in those cases where you will be migrating code, having a > tool that will do this consistently and efficiently is paramount. That is > why we used the rrrchive application with great success. :^) > > Jim Coryat > Senior Software Engineer > Micron Technology, Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Misi Mladoniczky [mailto:m...@rrr.se] > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:03 AM > Subject: Re: BMC Remedy and Flash > > Hi, > > The demo of the zero-downtime application update was really nice. And for > smaller definition updates it seems great. > > In many cases when it is time to upgrade you AR Server or ITSM, it is > usually > time to switch hardware/os/db-version as well. In this scenario it is more > important to have a good delta-data-migration utility (adv: such as > rrrchive) > to minimize the downtime. > > Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) > > Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13): > * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. > * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. > Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. > > > Actually it's not 100% true. If you are patching the host Operating > system > > etc., this would be true and also to a limited extent for the ARS app > server. > > However when you are updating the ITSM apps or the ARS app server in a > > significant way (changes the underlying schema), this is not the case. > When > > Remedy is utilized in a mission critical role, those personnel that > support > > Remedy would really benefit from a true zero downtime feature. This was > > presented/discussed at WWRUG 2012 as a possible future enhancement. > > Personally I would really really really like to see this become a > reality. > > > > Jim Coryat > > Senior Software Engineer > > Micron Technology, Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Zandi [mailto:remedy...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:49 AM > > Subject: Re: BMC Remedy and Flash > > > > 24/7 is already there... It is called server groups, if you implement > this > > would can take a server down and the others will takeover while it is > being > > patched. You will need a load balancer as well. This also allows for > larger > > system use as well > > My 2 cents > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Mar 17, 2014, at 3:12 PM, James Smith <bmcremedyarslis...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Nice info Doug, thanks for sharing. Want to add 2 cents if its > considered > >> then its of great use. > >> > >> Currently we have windows based tools for development activities and > data > >> migration like Developer studio and Import tool. Will it be feasible to > make > >> then available over web? > >> > >> One more thing, how can we make remedy to be available 24*7 during > upgrades > >> as well - zero downtime upgrades. This will help the product to compete > in > >> the market. > >> > >> > _______________________________________________________________________________ > >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > >> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > -- Patrick Zandi _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
