Hi Jason :)

I guess you were thinking about "arsystem.inclusion_goto_urls":
https://communities.bmc.com/thread/95765
But it seems it only works for the logout servlet if you do a customize button and you 
are using "goto" (?):
https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/ars81/Creating+a+login+or+logout+form+element+button

The problem is that the "login.jsp" page is hardcoded in "DefaultAuthenticator.class" 
from "MidTier.jar".

I°) first solution:
Soooooo, I used a hexa editor to change the value from "login.jsp" to 
"klatu.jsp".
My login page is "klatu.jsp" and when the login fails, it's redirected to 
"klatu.jsp" so it seems to work in this case :)
Then the problem is that you can't really put whatever you want in url because of course 
the .class is byte coded, so if you put "klatuishere.jsp" it's too long.
One way I did it was I had a page "klatuishere.jsp" which is my login page. Though in the 
class file, I just put "klatu.jsp" to respect the string length.
In klatu.jsp, I have a simple redirect to "klatuishere.jsp" :)
It seems to work.

The problem is that it means that of course the "klatu.jsp" page will be called 
for all failed login, and maybe you don't want this since it replaces one hardcoded value 
by another...


II°) Other way:
Let's say you have two pages, one "login_normal.jsp" for standard users and 
"klatuishere.jsp" for special users.
When someone uses the "special" "klatuishere.jsp", you generate a special cookie and you store the 
information "klatu" in it. If the user user "login_normal.jsp", just store "login" inside the 
cookie.
After the failed login, you are sent back to "login.jsp", though in this file 
you modify it to read the content of the cookie.
If inside the cookie you see "klatu", you redirect to "klatuishere.jsp", else to 
"login_normal.jsp".

It seems to be working, I made a test.
Though I made quite some screencaptures and a video so well...

If you want how it went, please check this url, you have the explanation of 
both methods, the source codes and the video that shows the demo:
https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-32806



On 28 Aug, 2014,at 11:52 PM, Jason Miller <jason.mil...@gmail.com> wrote:

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It isn't Remedy workflow objects that handle this.  It is coded into Mid Tier.  
Purely guessing but you could likely find the .jsp or .jsfile that has the 
logic and path you could change.

I am figuring you have customer that are using login.jsp as a valid page?  Is 
this group of users that are using the custom login page more important (for a 
lack of a better term) than customers hitting the login.jsp page?  I have to 
question the level of effort to make this work as desired vs. the benefit.

I have a fuzzy recollection of an 8.x feature to perform custom custom 
redirection but I can't find it in documentation.  I don't remember the context 
other than something to do with URLs or redirecting to web pages so I am not 
sure if this newish feature is a possible solution.

Beyond Remedy stuff if your users that need a special login page have some way 
they can be identified by their machine (like computer subnet, etc.) you 
probably do something fancy with Apache httpd (mod_rewrite) or scripting in 
IIS.  Still wondering if the ROI is there though.

Jason



On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Champagne, Susan <schampa...@hsnsudbury.ca> 
wrote:

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    Hi folks,

    I’m trying to find out where the workflow is coming from that causes the 
login.jsp page to display when using a customizedLogin.jsp page encounters 
ARERR 9388 (Authentication failed).

    We have a customized login page for a group of users, which displays 
correct; the problem occurs when the user mistypes his/her user name or 
password and encounters the Authentication failed error. As the error appears, 
the window and url change to display the url and page for the login.jsp.

    We’re using Mid Tier with Remedy 7.6.04.

    Can you assit, please?

    Susan Champagne

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