I always got those two confused! Well he's dead now so no more 
confusion. <];~)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> "I know who he was. One of the Wilson brothers from the Beach 
Boys!"
> 
> You're confusing August with Ringo.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > I know who he was. One of the Wilson brothers from the Beach 
Boys! 
> > <];~)
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 10/3/05 4:27 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Gary please don't mistake my question for an assertion.  
I've 
> > taken
> > > > no position here.  I'm just trying to understand what you are
> > > > saying. I still need an answer.  Why does a place like Great
> > > > Adventure thrive financially with no government subsidy, yet
> > > > theaters and art districts, which you maintain are "big 
draws" 
> > need
> > > > subsidy?
> > >  
> > > I guess you have to look at the bigger picture.  Why do trashy 
> > television
> > > shows get better ratings than shows that try to make a 
statement?  
> > Why do
> > > trashy novels sell more than pure literature?
> > > 
> > > One could say that in a free market society that this is a 
good 
> > thing;
> > > however, why is it that schools will include great literature 
in 
> > their
> > > classrooms but ignore the trashy novels that outsell those 
books 6-
> > 1? Could
> > > it be because it's part of a greater good?  I think so.  I 
think 
> > that's why
> > > the government tries to help businesses get off of the ground.
> > > 
> > > Let's face it, Six Flags is part of a gigantic corporation 
that 
> > can afford
> > > to run tons of ads down the throats of the masses while a 
normal 
> > theatre
> > > cannot ever expect to do so.  While there is a lot of costs to 
> > running an
> > > amusement park or a Fortune 500 company, there are plenty of 
costs 
> > involved
> > > in running a theatre (as you, more than most, are aware of). 
In 
> > addition to
> > > rent, there are hefty utility costs, salaries to stagehands, 
> > directors,
> > > actors, lighting crews, stage designers, marketers, etc.  
> > Unfortunately, you
> > > would be very, very hard-pressed to survive at $20-$50 ticket 
> > prices.  And
> > > that's the rub.
> > > 
> > > Theatre exists to show the good and bad of society.  It is our 
> > truth teller.
> > > It's our pathway from the past to the present and where we are 
> > headed.
> > > Theatre tries to do this at a price that people can afford.  
> > Sometimes it
> > > may seem expensive, but when compared to what a normal 
business 
> > would have
> > > to charge to make a profit (or just survive) it is a bargain.  
But 
> > that
> > > bargain comes with a price.  It means tons of fundraising, 
begging 
> > everyone
> > > from single subscribers to giant corporations to the 
government.
> > > 
> > > And the government plays the smallest role of any of them.  It 
> > plays a
> > > necessary role, but a small one.  Theatres have been forced to 
find
> > > alternative sources for 96-98% of their operating budget.
> > > 
> > > What does it cost per person to subsidize PBS?  It's a 
> > meaninglessly small
> > > number.  I don't care if you never watch PBS, if you're gonna 
> > complain about
> > > what the government subsidizes towards arts & culture than you 
> > better go
> > > through the budget and pick out the thousands of other things 
that 
> > have no
> > > bearing on your life and complain about those as well.
> > > 
> > > Subsidization may sound awful, but it happens in almost every 
> > industry.  Why
> > > do people feel bad about the poor farmer who's got a decision 
> > about selling
> > > the family farm for a couple of million dollars to a developer 
who 
> > wants to
> > > put up a shopping mall but they hate the fact that artists are 
> > being helped?
> > >  
> > > Maybe the problem is that America shoots for the lowest common 
> > denominator.
> > > We despise our European roots because they still believe in 
things 
> > like art
> > > & culture as defining a society.  We fail to understand how 
there 
> > could be
> > > Muslims who are so offended by what we call art these days 
that 
> > they want
> > > our society to be wiped out.  To MOST OF THE WORLD, arts & 
culture 
> > is how
> > > they want to be remembered.  I guess Americans would rather be 
> > remembered
> > > for how well their stock did today.  We don't think of 
legacies or 
> > legends;
> > > heroes or people who changed the world.  We think of immediate
> > > gratification.
> > > 
> > > August Wilson passed away yesterday.  In some places around 
the 
> > world, I
> > > expect there is a significant loss being felt.  It's a shame 
that 
> > 99% of the
> > > people in America have no idea who Wilson was.  And that's why 
the 
> > arts
> > > should be subsidized in my opinion.  Because men like August 
> > Wilson have
> > > done so much for society that people SHOULD know about them 
> > instead of
> > > having them linger in obscurity... While we linger in 
ignorance.




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