It's scary, when the ostracized bike guy is the voice of reason, but there is an inordinate amount of supposedly educated people posting responses in the face of futility.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dan what's in it for me? I'll spend the time to dig it all up, put > it in front of his face and he'll still deny it all. You'll still > support him. > > Go look at the Wilson quote issue. He first came on here denying > the quote was real. He wanted me to show him the quote and I told > him it was in Wilson's book. He wanted me to show him the page > number in the book and I told him to go find it himself. > > Once he found it in Wilson's book, stated by Wilson not once but > TWICE, did he say, "Ok Tom there it, I see it." Of course not. And > you didn't either. > > Instead he just repeats over and over that I made something up. I > know the plan - I've been in politics long enough. People don't > have the time nor inclination to go digging into the history of a > dispute to see the facts. So Mario figures if he just prints over > and over and over that I did something wrong, the causual observer, > upon hearing it enough, will believe it about me. It's called > playing dirty. > > Go look at his post after he found the quote. The last one in > Wilson's book was the one I was referring to. Mario's point back > then was that the translation was not perfect from Wilson writng > that Saddam said America "did not have the will" to see 10,000 > soldiers die, to my writing that Saddam said Amerca "did not have > the stomach" to see 10,000 soldiers die. > > Mario made that complaint by bringing up the issue of paraphrasing > (Wilson was paraphrasing). > > There is no difference in meaning between "will" and "stomach" in > this context. They are in any thesaurus as synonyms. Since Wilson > himself was paraphrasing, I don't have to be exacting, so long as > the meaning is the same. It is. Saddam thought that America did not > have the will [stomach] to see 10,000 soldiers die. > > Do you really support him on blasting me over and over and over on > that? There's nothing there. I was right. > > His other point, that I did not point out the statement was made in > 1990 is just dumb. Wilson was Amabassador in 1990. His book is > about his experiences in Iraq in 1990. > > That's like saying to quote George Washington, I would have to make > clear I wasn't talking to him yesterday. > > So there is a perfect example. He first challenged me on the > existence of the quote, then when he found it, he starts with bogus > claims about it. Then repeats it over and over and over. > > Yet you still support him on it. Whose should lose credibility for > that - me or you? > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > > While I have seen Mario put it to you > > > > quite hard, it has always been on the facts. > > > > > > Then you aren't paying attention. Your attestation here means > > > nothing. > > > > > > > But again, I have > > > > never seen him post something about you as a person. > > > > > > Again you are not paying attention. That's not my fault. > > > > > > > Show the facts. If am wrong then I am wrong. But show me, because > > without the facts, your attestation is just as meaningless. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
