The problem with you Werner, is YOU make TOO much sense!  You lay it
all out plain and simple!  No double talk, double entendre's, nada! 
Plain old english, the way I like it.  If I could repeat my post to
you, I would.  If I could apologize for the actions, taken against
you, I hope you know, that this group, is in your corner.  You have
been the voice of reason, of good common sense, a person who REALLY
cares and knows what this City was and now, what it is.  I've learned
so much through you, Frank, Mario, Dan, Glenn, Jack, Maureen, God
Bless her, the short salespro, the bikeman, the couple and if I missed
someone, I didn't mean to leave you out!  Really, I thought I knew
about AP; yeah, I've been reading "negative" stuff about this town,
since I landed here, but I was taught, "Believe NONE of what you hear,
and HALF, of what you see"!

I knew that there must be something awfully valuable here, because
EVERYBODY, want a piece!  Like the "Big Apple", I ain't never got a
bite!  Let me back up a bit; Thanks to the legal eagle, JR and all of
the real estate people!  Know what else?  I don't agree with everyone,
all the time, but I respect the fact that I just may be wrong, as
perfect as I think I am!  After a hard election, where lots of mud was
flung, we're still here.  Werner, thanks for your knowledge and I wish
I had done my homework, like you have.  Just wanted to give you 2
thumbs up!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <asburycouple@>
> wrote:
> >
> > As hard as it is to feel this way, I don't think MM can be saddled 
> > with the sins of the past and be forced to play catchup, either by 
> > working 5 times faster or by somehow being forced to deal with the 
> > shortfall in taxables caused by Partners lack of progress.  My 
> > opinion is that you have to look at MM's entry as the starting point 
> > for them and judge what they are able to do in a reasonable timeframe 
> > apart from justifyable frustrations that should be directed to 
> > Partners.  It is never wise to punish the son for the sins of the 
> > father.  Judge MM on what they are doing as though the slate with 
> > them is clean.  Again, nobody will always agree with what they do but 
> > overall they seem to be investing and things are getting done.  I 
> > wish we had five years back but we don't and it wasn't their fault.
> ===================================================================
> 
> Just some clarification as to the responsibilities/positions of the
> parties involved.
> 
> Asbury Partners has the development rights in the entire Redevelopment
> Area (I'll give the boundaries if anyone is interested)
> 
> They are responsible for assembling large parcels of property in the
> RA and selling them to 'real' developers.
> 
> They own everything east of Ocean Ave due to the sale of public
> property by the City. That property is not in the RA and has not been
> rehabilitated as was promised.
> 
> Madison Marquette is a partner of Asbury Partners with Asbury Partners
> holding the majority say. MM is in for the retail component along the
> beachfront (E of Ocean Ave).
> 
> Then there's Paramount (N of BCH) Metro (C-8) and Westminster (Wesley)
> all of which are developing property that Asbury Partners received
> title to from the Carabetta settlement. No ED was used to acquire them.
>  
> The point of all this - just to put it all in perspective while
> figuring out who to blame/praise for what's going on.
> 
> (Ultimately, isn't it the City Council?)
> 
> Werner
>




 
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