VERY WELL SAID!!! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote: > > > > -you need to use 100% lot coverage to obtain 100% usability or for > > that matter, 200%. OPEN SPACE at street level - open airways, use of > > glass and natural stone and levels. NYC mandated it (right dan) at > > least 20 years ago as street level. Open those architecture books at > > reread Frank Llyod Wright or I.M. Pei. > > > First of all, this isnt New York City, this is Asbury Park. In New > York, there are hundreds of streets and blocks, different areas of > density, a heavy flow of constant foot traffic... if Asbury Park ever > has as much density as New York City then God bless it. And that rule > only applies to high density areas of New York like Times Square, > Columbus Circle, 5th Avenue, etc. Things that would be the > equivalent of the Boardwalk, Cookman Avenue, Main Street. > > Frank Lloyd Wright designed mostly homes for suburbs with yards in > his career. Natural light, glass, stone... these were things designed > to make people feel comfortable from the INSIDE of the building, not > people walking by on the street. His houses were designed with > interior spaces in mind, he is sometimes credited with creating what > we would today call an open floor plan. > > If you really want Asbury Park to rebound, then you have to accept > the fact that things aren't going to be like they were in the past. > Wake up people, you cant get developers to build single family homes, > motels, one story restaruants and bars, etc in a town which has > blocks and blocks of empty oceanfront real estate. I dont care what > the name on the door of the company behind the redevelopment is, its > a pipe dream if you believe the past is going to come back. > > Theyre going to build big with alot of density, and in the case of > the Esperanza, or North Beach, or anything else thats going to get > built for that matter, you have to utilize 100% lot coverage (or > close to it) at street level in order to accomodate parking under the > building as well as mechaincal equiptment, lobbys and entrances, > retail, and also being able to fit a pool on top of the building in > between the towers. Without those things the building wont function > properly, and you arent utilizing all of your potential as a > developer... and as an architect, you design based on what the > developer wants. If the architect said to Metro Homes, "hey I think > you should scale back your project 75 units and set back your > building 10 feet from each side to include a lawn," they'd tell him > or her to go screw themselves and they'd get someone else to design > the building. Remember, theres a business aspect to all of this too. > > And do you really think people aren't going to come to Asbury Park, > or residents aren't going to walk down the street to the beach > because the Esperanza is too close to the street? Come on. >
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