I can't disagree with that Dan. But, I guess I'm not one of those adults, and I doubt the musical direction things we'll be taking are much to my taste either. If it was more Asbury Lanes/The Saint, i'd be psyched, but I think we're heading in a more conservative musical direction. I'm not a fan of the Jazz Lobsters or P-Dub assassins. I like my music to be a bit more edgy and modern. Original. I don't like shopping. I like to be around history. Funny thing is, I don't like Pt. or Seaside either. Both are kinda trashy in my opinion. Bottom line is that many people are going to love the new AP. I'm just not one of them. I have more fun wandering around Ocean Grove on my bicycle these days. To me, a good time is riding my bike around the tent city in the early evening. There's something about that that just does it for me. I am trying the best I can to find something I like about the boardwalk redev, but I just can't fake it. I'd rather hang out with Jonnie G at his little vending truck then browse thru a store with overpriced clothing. I can do that any day, but I'm not going to waste my time at the beach doing so. And honestly, i'm happy that so many other people are satisfied with the direction that things are going in.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dsher4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jack, > > I understand your point and don't disagree with your desire for > something of wonder and excitement. However, those other boarkwalks > have been done or are in point pleasant for example. I think our > boardwalk is moving towards a music oriented boardwalk with lots of > variety for adults. They aren't gearing it for kids and i think > that is a purposeful choice. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@> wrote: > > > > I was thinking more in terms of look then in content. > > I'd like to be proven wrong. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing > but respect for all the > > retailers that have opened on our boardwalk. > > I guess the problem for me is that I'm not easily seduced by the > redevelopment. I will > > always agree that it looks better, but the direction that the > content of the redevelopment > > has taken does little for me. When I see our boardwalk, I remember > the AP of my > > childhood, as well as all the boardwalks i've seen throughout my > life. > > There's none of that wonder and excitement on our boardwalk for > me. None of the sights, > > sounds or smells. I just see high priced retail, $68 tee shirts > and $70 shorts. I don't go to > > the boardwalk for things like that. And I also think that the > traffic we are starting to see > > would be dramatically bigger if tourism was the focus, not retail. > > I respect other peoples joy over where we are at, but I'm sorry, > it does nothing for me. It's > > just not what I hoped for, and no matter how hard I try I can't > even force myself to like it. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <nnjallans1@> > wrote: > > > > > > Jack, > > > It is not a strip mall...yet. Currently you have mom & pop > retailers. Many are residents > > of Asbury who want to aid in the rebuilding and have taken risks > to create these specility > > shops. With that being said, who else would open up stores on the > boardwalk/ This is > > truely the first summer the boradwalk has a direction and it was > very late in opening. > > Retail works in a cycles. You will have the mom & pop stores and > as they build customers, > > the retail giants then move in. Rents go up and the mom & pops > leave. You see this > > happen all over. If I do recall, MM did mention J Crew as a > retailer when they were > > proposing the boardwalk rebuild. Time will tell. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Jack Pitzer <hinge98@> > > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:12:26 PM > > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Help Need with ReVision's productions > of HAIR. > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry that you take issue with my comment, but to me, the > 5th Ave. pavilion > > currently > > > looks like a strip mall. Does it look better yes, but I think > it's been ruined. To me, it > > looks > > > throw together, and not faithfully restored according to the > plan. It doesn't even fit into > > > the classic look of CH and the Paramount, nor what the Casino > will look like if that's > > ever > > > completed. > > > There are strip malls in this country that have fine dining > establishments and places like > > > you've mentioned, but they are still strip malls. They are all > over the Miami area. > > > I honestly think that people are so weary from decades of > neglect that the boardwalk > > > experienced that people have lowered their expectations and are > willing to accept any > > > progress without question. > > > Now we have a bandshell that probably doesn't have a future. How > is that going to be > > > resolved? I'm willing to bet that it doesn't get resolved, > because people are being too > > > seduced by what they perceive to be progress. Our city has also > been lulled by the > > > seduction, and they don't appear to have the balls to step up > and do anything about it. > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "dsher4" <dsher4@> wrote: > > > > > > > > How many strip malls have places like Hot Sand, LaPlaca and > two > > > > dining establishments that look out onto a beautiful > beach/surf. I > > > > take issue with that comment. > > > > > > > > I do agree, however, that the bandshell should have a future > and it > > > > doesn't seem that way now. > > > > > > > > Dan S. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately I'm at work and I can't turn it up load enough > to > > > > hear the response. What > > > > > does it say? It sounds to me like they aren't answering the > > > > question Werner posed. > > > > > Meanwhile, while we're all praising MM for the amazing job > they've > > > > done, that very praise > > > > > is going to overshadow the fact that MM went way past what > was > > > > supposed to be done and > > > > > basically destroyed the 5th Ave. pavilion. Now it's a strip > mall > > > > with expensive dining. No > > > > > bandshell. We might as well kiss the bandshell goodbye, > because I > > > > really don't see MM > > > > > removing the heating and A/C units. And there is no way on > earth > > > > that the one next to the > > > > > stage can be concealed or silenced in any way to make > performances > > > > up there possible. > > > > > Once again. our city drops the ball and let's the developers > do > > > > whatever they want. > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "sandpiper15" > <sandpiper15@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Jack Pitzer" > <hinge98@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering why this isn't more of an uproar about the > > > > current > > > > > > situation with the > > > > > > > bandshell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, if you click here > > > > > > <http://www.asburyra dio.com/audio/ PublicComment070 > 208_007.mp3> > > > > and FF > > > > > > to 12:18, I think you'll find the response to Werner's > very > > > > articulate > > > > > > and well-founded question regarding the bandshell to be > quite > > > > uproarious > > > > > > - in a Marxian sort of way. ("That's in every contract. > That's > > > > what they > > > > > > call a sanity clause. - Ha! You can't fool me. There ain't > no > > > > Sanity > > > > > > Claus.") > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
