Tom, I wasn't commenting on the lighting one way or the other - just 
that it was great to actually see someone bringing up a topic about 
Asbury Park again for a change.  Political discussions are one thing 
but the personal attacks going back and forth get pretty old pretty 
fast.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <asburycouple@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Werner, with all the BS flying back and forth on this board right 
now 
> > I never thought I could be so grateful to see you complain about 
> > lighting!
> 
> 
> AsburyCouple,
> 
> Aren't complaints about Asbury Park's lighting overstated, because 
what 
> is good or bad is really in the eye of the beholder?  
> 
> There's certainly no real objective standard despite anyone's 
attempt 
> to make one, because it truly is a matter of peronal likes and 
dislikes.
> 
> Anecdotally:
> 
> When I was growing up, the sign from Freddy's Pizza on Asbury 
Avenue 
> could be seen from by bedroom window.  There was a street light 
> outside, too.
> 
> I was used to all the light.
> 
> When I went to law school I lived in a 300 year old Manor House in 
the 
> middle of 40 acres in the woods.
> 
> My first night I was there alone.  I shut out the bedroom light and 
> couldn't believe the complete and total darkness.  I tried waving 
my 
> hand directly in front of my wide open eyes, and there was nothing -
 
> like I was blind.  Dead silence too.
> 
> At first I didn't like it.    Wasn't me.  I didn't feel at home 
without 
> that Freddy's Pizza sign or the sound of cars and people.
> 
> However, after about a month,  I LOVED IT!   I understood the rural 
> concept.  There isn't a loneliness like I feared.  Instead there's 
a 
> sense of ownership, of home.  That piece of the Universie is yours -
 
> you control it and know it and it's a defensive postion:  Someone 
who 
> wants me is going to be at a great disadvantage getting to me.
> 
> My "back to Asbury"  point is:  I unltimately didn't have to 
choose.  
> My enjoyment of lighting or no lighting was not mutually 
exclusive.  I 
> could dig them both.
> 
> So what's the big deal?  It's lighting.  It will affect people 
> differently.
> 
> A giant "so what."
>



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