In a message dated 10/22/2008 11:09:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Then we  have the issue of the master of the universe thinking that
they created  investment vehicles that completely spread out the risk
to nominal levels.  No one really knows the truth and the only true
thing that can be said  about this is that it actually made the
measurement of total risk not  feasible. 
 
“BEWARE of geeks bearing  formulas.” 
 
 
The Rise of the Machines,  October 12,  2008
 
Excerpts from   http://tinyurl.com/6rozjf
 
Years ago, Mr. Buffett called derivatives “weapons of financial mass  
destruction." 
It is something that gives people an illusion of illimitable power, and it  
is, in some ways, responsible for all our troubles — this, what you might call  
technical arrogance, that overcomes people when they see what they can do 
with  their minds.” 
The Wall Street geeks, the quantitative analysts (“quants”) and masters of  “
algo trading” probably felt the same irresistible lure of “illimitable power”
  when they discovered “evolutionary algorithms” that allowed them to create 
vast  empires of wealth by deriving the dependence structures of portfolio 
credit  derivatives. 
What does that mean? You’ll never know. Over and  over again, financial 
experts and wonkish talking heads endeavor to explain  these mysterious, 
“toxic” 
financial instruments to us lay folk. Over and over,  they ignobly fail, 
because we all know that no one understands credit default  obligations and 
derivatives, except perhaps Mr. Buffett and the computers who  created them. 
Somehow the genius quants — the best and brightest geeks Wall Street firms  
could buy — fed $1 trillion in subprime mortgage debt into their 
supercomputers,  added some derivatives, massaged the arrangements with 
computer algorithms 
and —  poof! — created $62 trillion in imaginary wealth. It’s not much of a 
stretch to  imagine that all of that imaginary wealth is locked up somewhere 
inside the  computers.... 
As the current financial crisis spreads (like a computer virus) on the  earth’
s nervous system (the Internet), it’s worth asking if we have somehow  
managed to colossally outsmart ourselves using computers. After all, the Wall  
Street titans loved swaps and derivatives because they were totally unregulated 
 by 
humans. That left nobody but the machines in charge. 
George Dyson, has written an essay (published at _Edge.org_ 
(http://edge.org/) ) warning about a different  strain of technical arrogance 
that has brought 
the entire planet to the brink of  financial destruction. George Dyson is an 
historian of technology and the author  of “Darwin Among the Machines,” a book 
that warned us a decade ago that it was  only a matter of time before 
technology out-evolves us and takes over. 
His new essay — “Economic Dis-Equilibrium: Can You Have Your House and Spend 
 It Too?” 
Highly complex computer-generated financial instruments (known as  
derivatives) are being produced, not from natural factors of production or 
other  goods, 
but purely from other financial instruments.” 
Which leads us to the next question: Just how much of the world’s financial  
stability now lies in the “hands” of computerized trading algorithms? 
• 
Here’s a frightening party trick that I learned from the futurist Ray  
Kurzweil. Read this excerpt and then I’ll tell you who wrote it: 
But we are suggesting neither that the human race would voluntarily turn  
power over to the machines nor that the machines would willfully seize power.  
What we do suggest is that the human race might easily permit itself to drift  
into a position of such dependence on the machines that it would have no  
practical choice but to accept all of the machines’ decisions. ... Eventually a 
 
stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system 
running 
 will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them  
intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People  
won’
t be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent  
on them that turning them off would amount to suicide. 
Brace yourself. It comes from the Unabomber’s manifesto. 
Yes, Theodore Kaczinski was a homicidal psychopath and a paranoid kook, but  
he was also a bloodhound when it came to scenting all of the horrors 
technology  holds in store for us. Hence his mission to kill technologists 
before 
machines  commenced what he believed would be their inevitable reign of terror. 
• 
We are living, we have long been told, in the Information Age. Yet now we are 
 faced with the sickening suspicion that technology has run ahead of us. Man 
is a  fire-stealing animal, and we can’t help building machines and machine  
intelligences, even if, from time to time, we use them not only to outsmart  
ourselves but to bring us right up to the doorstep of Doom. 
We are still fearful, superstitious and all-too-human creatures. At times, we 
 forget the magnitude of the havoc we can wreak by off-loading our minds onto 
 super-intelligent machines, that is, until they run away from us, like mad  
sorcerers’ apprentices, and drag us up to the precipice for a look down into 
the  abyss. 
As the financial experts all over the world use machines to unwind Gordian  
knots of financial arrangements so complex that only machines can make —  “
derive” — and trade them, we have to wonder: Are we living in a bad sci-fi  
movie? Is the Matrix made of credit default swaps? 
When Treasury Secretary Paulson (looking very much like a frightened primate) 
 came to Congress seeking an emergency loan, Senator Jon Tester of Montana, a 
 Democrat still living on his family homestead, asked him: “I’m a dirt 
farmer.  Why do we have one week to determine that $700 billion has to be 
appropriated or  this country’s financial system goes down the pipes?”  
“Well, sir,” Mr. Paulson could well have responded, “the computers have  
demanded it.”


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