The fact is the Palcace, Albion Hotel, Charms building, and many others that 
could have potentially been rehabilitated were torn down only to be still 
vacant lots.  Though there are arguments as to whether or not these buildings 
were structurally sound, the fact is these buildings were still standing and 
even if they required major reconstruction or partial tear down/rebuild, the 
outcome would have been the same.  

Madison Marquette has always seemed to have the idea of moving the Stone Pony 
into the Casino.  They almost tore down the WB but probably realized the land 
would sit vacant.  These are thriving businesses that should be anchors of 
Ocean Ave. 

The Casino might sit in it's current state until MM goes ahead and builds a new 
Stone Pony on the east end.  Or into the Heating Plant as also suggested by 
them. Both of which would leave Ocean Ave vacant and a landmark crushed.  

The NJ Museum of Contemporary Art wanted to lease the Heating Plant a couple of 
years ago as use for their main gallery but were foolishly turned down by MM.  

But the fact is the market will probably determine the time frame.  The plan to 
build 28 townhomes at Kingsley and Asbury Ave seems like a good idea on 
paper... not sure if this also includes the Flamingo site.  But at the same 
time, the Esperanza is still sitting vacant.  At least a plan for this site 
would be nice.
 

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <fancypaaantz@...> wrote:
>
> Putting the specifics of the plan aside, which I have now reviewed, has 
> anyone ever mentioned a time frame? When do people think that the plan will 
> be fully realized (if ever). 20 years? I am not trying to be argumentative 
> here, I am curious to hear whether people in this group (1) think these 
> blocks will ever actually be developed like that and (2) if so, when? Whether 
> I agree with the specifics of of the plan or not (and I do not agree with a 
> relocated Stone Pony), my bigger concern is this pattern of tearing stuff 
> down and starting projects to either never finish them, or to have blocks of 
> vacant "luxury" condos. For example, wasn't the Wonder Bar almost torn down? 
> And thankfully it wasn't and it is a fun place, and the Yappy Hour I saw was 
> super busy. That operating motel was torn down and nothing built there, 
> right? From when I moved here in 2004, the stores on Kingsley have been 
> vacant. It looked like not long before 2004 there was at least a little deli 
> or something there. Will the Lanes be torn down only to have a vacant lot? At 
> the very least, if people will go in and tear down and/or remove existing 
> businesses, please make sure something viable will go in its place.
>




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