In business one of the key determinants of success is focusing on something 
specific and doing it extremely well.  having a few rides will just be an 
eyesore and a half baked attempt at luring some families in.  in my humble 
opinion i think they need to keep going with the art and music scene as far as 
they can take it.  An adult playground so to speak.  Pick a vision (werner has 
done a good job detailing why music and entertainment make sense), stick to it 
and then don't veer from the course.  Focus and build.  I agree with art, 
music, beerfests etc...  I had a bunch of friends down and they loved the 
beerfest.  Spent a bundle at the beer fest, ate at pops and then probably spent 
a few hundred in Porta.  All good for the town.  Let's not despair at this 
point.  Look at what is happening on Cookman.  Art focused, keep it going.

Dan

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@...> wrote:
>
> I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all is 
> the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for a 
> carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to be 
> done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will have 
> to change and maybe will.
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > there's no reason why you can't have a "classy" amusement area - if wanted 
> > at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The might 
> > come back without their kids and spend even more.
> > 
> > Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought 
> > our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what 
> > could be...) all the way down to margate. 
> > 
> > The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the "what the f" Revel 
> > Casino now once again underway.
> > 
> > Parts along the inlet with beautiful new "fancy" homes, a few single family 
> > low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and a few 
> > dilapidated buildings. 
> > 
> > ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to see 
> > better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage parlors 
> > also dot the boardwalk. 
> > 
> > My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. 
> > 
> > Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket, it's 
> > been 33 years to get to where it is today.
> > 
> > Asbury has it's own share of "problems".  What asbury has turned out to be 
> > today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some 
> > who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the 
> > right time and managed or are managing to survive.
> > 
> > One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a "show" of all the projects that 
> > were planned for AP since the 20's. 
> > 
> > Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing 
> > cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the 
> > bw and of course the jackson pavilion....
> > 
> > Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the oceanfront 
> > and springwood ave. Everything requires  removal of buildings.
> > 
> > Maybe it will be done in 5 years....maybe 10, maybe 30.  (I think I heard 
> > this since I was 17)
> > 
> > You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just 
> > pick your time period.
> > 
> > The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the 
> > Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in.
> >
>




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