My reality is my income was nearly cut in half, by no fault of my own. I'm now
struggling to keep up with expenses that I never had to worry about before.
Don't get me wrong, I love living and working in the same town, and i
absolutely love riding my bike to work.
It's funny to read the echo of what the Occupy Wall St protesters first rose up
about, the 99% vs. the 1%. It seems that higher income people are supporting
paid parking while those who are struggling are living with their new reality,
and there doesn't seem to be much empathy.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids <claire.davids@...> wrote:
>
> We have to compare it to other towns though, if you lived and worked in
> Hoboken, Jersey City, Manhattan in the downtown areas you would have to pay
> for parking (when we lived in NY we paid nearly $000s/month for parking for
> a car and motorbike), it's a lifestyle choice we had to accept. Living in
> AP and working in AP is no different to that, much cheaper, but you would
> expect it to be much cheaper as it's the "suburbs". It's tough to impose
> costs on people who have not paid them until now, and I understand that is
> not pleasant to increase your cost of living and I truly feel for those
> impacted, but perhaps we've not been in a reality until now.
>
> It's not dissimilar to gas pricing, when gas was $1.50/gallon it was not a
> reality, the rest of the world was paying $5 to $10 / gallon if not an oil
> producing nation. So when it raised to $3 / $4 here it put the country in a
> real situation as opposed to a deflated one. I don't mean to bring this up
> to raise a debate on gas prices here or cause some political debate, i'm
> just using it as a comparison about living in reality.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Hinge <hinge98@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > The bottom line in my opinion is people coming to the downtown area to eat
> > are happy to find open parking spaces, but the reality is that during
> > working hours, downtown has become a ghosttown, and tons of people aren't
> > happy about it. The city has basically said screw you to employees and
> > residents. Same thing that happened in my neighborhood.
> > I think the America's Cup guy is reluctant to admit that his own push for
> > paid parking has had a detrimental effect on his business.
> > I work on Bond Street. Every employee at my company refused to buy a
> > parking pass. In this economy, adding what amounts to another tax on your
> > income simply isn't a good idea. Not only that, but I believe that if you
> > buy the employee parking pass, you still have to park blocks away from where
> > you work. Correct me if I'm wrong about that one. Then, if you get somebody
> > like me, who now has to pay to park in front of his home and works downtown,
> > you are screwed. How is this helping residents and employees?
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids <claire.davids@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Take the conversation further with the Americas Cup owner though, my
> > husband
> > > and i spoke to him last saturday for a while about parking and at that
> > > point he was very happy with the paid parking, even if business is down
> > he
> > > sees it as a huge benefit in the long term, plus you can't gauge business
> > > being down, there are now 3 coffee shops downtown (if you include the
> > gelato
> > > place), maybe that's why business is down, we don't drink enough coffee
> > to
> > > support 3 coffee shops. maybe now there's parking people will come from
> > > neighbouring towns for coffee. there are way too many variables at play
> > to
> > > blame it one just one thing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Hinge <hinge98@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday morning, I stopped at America's Cup for a bagel. Totally dead
> > > > compared to before parking went into effect. I overheard a conversation
> > with
> > > > the owner saying that business is down big time. Same thing with Russo
> > > > Music. They are saying that they had the worst week of business since
> > they
> > > > opened.
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Meanwhile, several of the business's that lobbied for paid parking
> > are
> > > > stating that business has gone downhill since it went into effect.
> > > > > There's also unhappy people north of the parking zone in the
> > residential
> > > > neighborhoods. Scores of employee's who are not willing to pay to park
> > are
> > > > now parking in those areas. It really gets bad when the school in that
> > > > neighborhood gets out. There used to be open parking for people to stop
> > and
> > > > wait for their kids, now it's become a log jam that did not exist
> > before.
> > > > > Also, there were 3 break in's this past week, 2 on Mattison and 1 on
> > > > Cookman.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids <claire.davids@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm with you, I avoided too - now i don't avoid, i think it's great
> > > > that i
> > > > > > can find parking. If you talk to some of the retailers they're
> > happy
> > > > about
> > > > > > the parking situation and it has increased business for them. There
> > are
> > > > > > always going to be complainers, it's human nature, if it wasn't
> > parking
> > > > > > they'd be complaining about the roadworks, or the weather or the
> > > > something
> > > > > > else, something else.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:32 AM, fancypaaantz <fancypaaantz@
> > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I came in 2004, America's Cup was not here until much later. In
> > 2004,
> > > > there
> > > > > > > was Harry's Roadhouse, Rock Paper Scissors, Be Green and Janet's
> > > > boutique on
> > > > > > > Cookman, with a few other things. When did America's Cup open?
> > 2008?
> > > > When I
> > > > > > > first moved here, I just parked on Lake bc there was always
> > parking
> > > > over
> > > > > > > there at that time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Quite honestly, I kind of avoided Cookman BC of the parking
> > situation
> > > > in
> > > > > > > more recent years. I could never find a spot and I find that
> > annoying
> > > > if I
> > > > > > > just want to run in somewhere for something quick. So, I think it
> > > > really
> > > > > > > cuts both ways.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Where were these patrons (that are suddenly gone from the
> > downtown)
> > > > > > > parking before the meters went into effect?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Dennis Dubrow <traderdube@>
> > > > > > > > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:42:37
> > > > > > > > To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: [AsburyPark] 2003
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Asbury is a ghost town, I spoke to a number of Cookman
> > retailers,
> > > > > > > business is down since the meters went into effect. It reminds me
> > of
> > > > 8 years
> > > > > > > ago when we bulls some stores and rented them, then America's cup
> > > > opened and
> > > > > > > we sat there waiting for a customer to come in...and waited and
> > > > waited and
> > > > > > > waited. The merchants that are still there, and almost all the
> > > > current
> > > > > > > merchants are hard working business people, not weekend warriors
> > > > looking for
> > > > > > > a tax write off by opening a store...and then never opening. The
> > high
> > > > taxes,
> > > > > > > the extraordinary cost of opening a business in AP, and now the
> > > > parking
> > > > > > > meters that don't even work are a detriment to downtown Asbury in
> > a
> > > > huge
> > > > > > > way. Occupay AP should be railing against this travesty of a
> > money
> > > > grab by
> > > > > > > the powers that be in city hall.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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