If I may jump in, both Utpal and you have made some interesting observations
and forecast some practical scenarios. The chances of India being disintegrated
by the likes of ULFA are remote, in fact they do not exist. What ULFA can and
should do is to work out a deal to redress some of the complaints to get a fair
share for Assam in the republic. They can do it with clever manipulation of
Delhi, in stead of riding the "Akorar Moi".
Dilip Deka
----- Original Message ----
From: "Roy, Santanu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Malabika Brahma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:18:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Reforms - The CONCLUSION
Utpal:
I agree with your vision.
The way I see it - in the short run, there is almost nothing substantive that
one can get the GOI to accede to in terms of effective decentralization of
power or plebscite or any other adjustment to the political relationship
between Delhi and Assam. The babus and polticians that run Delhi are under
almost no pressure at all.
Chandan-da suggested that the pressure might come from the fact that New Delhi
wants to look like a big world power and carry international prestige & it
can't do that with an armed rebellion and suppression of liberty in one part of
its country. I actually don't think that India has any such ambition. India
want to be China in terms of international leverage. China routinely suppresses
even peaceful peasant movements by brute force. International power follows
from aggregate economic and military might. It does not require internal
democracy or liberty. Countries like today's India, China, current Russia,
Iran, Turkey are not very civil (I know I am going to be lynched for saying
this)- they do not aim to project their power through moral superiority of
their internal social order.
The only way a rebellion in Assam would threaten India's ascendency would be if
it made India look unstable. But like Chechnya or even the Kurdish border in
Turkey, Assam is almost a detached fringe of Indian society. It cannot
destabilize India as of now.
As I see it, the GOI thinks of negotiations with ULFA as basically a process of
waiting till the latter is ready to surrender - the only talk it wants is to
check out if they are ready for that - and if that ever happens, they have a
stdandard face saving formula that they will offer - bits of special powers
for the state, maybe inner line permit, lots of central funds (to fatten the
leaders) and a political process to return them to power in the state
elections.
As I see it, the ULFA has no reason to accept such an offer at this point.
Therefore, I see no closure in sight.
I also agree with you that hope lies in history. None of us concievably imagine
what the geopolitical map of the world will look like 20 or 30 years from now.
To take advantage of historical opportunities (like your third world war), one
needs to have a strong civil movement at the grassroot level - a cohesive
nationality formation process. That is much harder than armed insurrection.
Santanu.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Malabika Brahma
Sent: Sat 1/14/2006 10:57 AM
To: assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] Reforms - The CONCLUSION
Ram da asked some very practical questions. We all know that the GOI is
controlled by politicians who gives a damn if Assam or NE bleeds to death.
Here is the fact (as stressed by Santanu )
Those who control GOI are politicians who care less for the people of Assam
and NE and care less for the lives of soldiers that die in NE. So achieving
independence through an armed struggle is next to impossible.
The only way independence can be achieved are:
1. By making constitutional amendment to include "instrument of secession" in
Indian constitution and influencing upon the GOI to hold a plesbicite in
Assam/NE and hope that majority of the people vote for secession. But this can
not be achieved unless there is move to build a consensus in the National
level.
2. By hoping that a 3rd world war breaks out and GOI finds it impossible to
manage the present political India. Actually in my opinion 2nd world war is
what helped India win its independence from the British. It became too
expensive for Britain to maintain its colonies because of its involvement in
the war. This again is highly unlikely.
May be Chandan da or Mike da knows some other Practical Means of achieving
independence that we are missing.
That's why I think "Independence of Assam/NE is excellent to have but not
possible to achieve". So why build castles in the air ?
But yes, if we can force GOI to hold a plesbicite, that will be the greatest
victory. What will be the outcome of the plesbicite , is left to speculation of
course.
But one thing we have to understand, for Government of India , ULFA and NDFB
may not count, but for Assam and NE, they are our boys after all. When one
ULFA/NDFB member gets eliminated, one of my brother or sister is getting
eliminated.
Utpal
Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
C'da,
Just to keep things in prespective, this is what Priyankoo asked Himen da (to
Himen da's statement)
** Do you have any plans or ideas how these people can be controlled or
eliminated? If yes, then what have our previous generations been doing in the
last 50 years to eliminate/ control those people?
The sins of fathers ought not to be visited upon the sons :) What Priyankoo
asked is legitimate, but in the present scenario seems like he is simply
passing the buck from this generation to the previous one. And of course, the
previous gen is also doing the same.
So, question is how do you expect the problem/s to be solved of we keep passing
the buck around, with no solution in sight?
Now, lets get to what you are asking:
> everyone cries hoarse over, but are unable to figure out how to begin dealing
> >with. I asked you to offer your thoughts, those of you who ASSERT vehemently
> >that the prevailing Indian system is adequate to deal with it, on HOW you
> will >begin to that.
Again, since we haven't much agreement on any of these issues (dealing with
them), let us assume we the desi-bhoktos don't have any answer.
I would like to ask again of you (those who see Assam's liberation as an end to
all problems):
a) How do you propose to FREE Assam from the clutches of on evil India?
We would like practical, feasible proposals. Of course, you will have to assume
all the realities, like
GOI doesn't care or is inept in resolving the issue
That the GOI is willing and very capable of thwarting any move for independence
simply because of its sheer might and inept/adamant ministers and bureaucrats.
and
b) How do you convince the rest of the Assamese (who want to stay with India)
to join hands with you?
Now, I will definitely understand if you do not want to answer these or give
vague answers.
But if you seriously think these are impossibilites, then what is the next step
for Assam?
Continue with insurgency
or work within the ambit of the Indian constitution (however broken it is?).
I am eagerly awaiting a positive and practical response from you, C'da :) :)
--Ram
On 1/13/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> At 1:12 PM -0600 1/13/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> C'da
>
> >*** That is a fine idea. And I challenged the devotees of desi-demokrasy to
> >do just that, very pointedly, a number of times: To show how >they would
> >proceed with effecting the reforms they see as necessary under the
> >prevailing system.
>
> Assume if you will for a moment that we 'devotees of desi-demokrasy' have no
> answers. But you anti-desi everything are the ones dishing out left and right
> about how Assam cannot prosper under 'Indian rule'
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> Ram:
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>
> I took one littler area: Of corruption in public life, one that everyone
> seems to agree on, and one that
> everyone cries hoarse over, but are unable to figure out how to begin dealing
> with. I asked you to offer your thoughts, those of you who ASSERT vehemently
> that the prevailing Indian system is adequate to deal with it, on HOW you
> will begin to that. I asked for no minutiae, no details--that would be unfair
> to ask, because we are all amateurs -- just offer a conceptual solution
> approach.
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>
> What did you come up with? What did Rajen? What did Himendra Thakur have to
> offer in response to
> Priyankoo's question?
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> Fact is, if you had even anything, you would have laid it down on me like
> sand bags.
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> But we do know why, because you too know the real truths, but are unable to
> acknowledge them. Is that NOT the truth Ram?
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> from under this 'yoke'?
> Lets set aside slogans and emotions for a while, just tell us in very plain
> Ingrazi how do you propose in a very practical manner to free Assam? (we can
> get to the lofty plans for Assam post-independence)
>
> And if you cannot see a way out, what is the next best step for Assam?
> Continue with the insurgency?
> or do what we can to develop Assam within the present framework.
>
> If either of the above are impossible to achieve, then would a solution for
> Assam be to throw up our hands and declare in unison
> 'Upaai nai'
>
> --Ram
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> On 1/13/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> At 11:35 AM -0600 1/13/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
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> >But they cannot do that under prevailing Indian rule. "
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> I think before we proceed on our debate, let us debate this. Is the above is
> a slogan or fact?
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> *** That is a fine idea. And I challenged the devotees of desi-demokrasy to
> do just that, very pointedly, a number of times: To show how they would
> proceed with effecting the reforms they see as necessary under the prevailing
> system.
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> The last time we went thru that exercise, Rajen Barua decided to play Dalai
> Lama and Ram went on and on, beating around the bush.
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> But the challenge remains. Put up, or you-know-what!
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> And I aim that challenge specifically to those who have lived in the USA or
> Britain for decades, and hopefully have, some clues, as to how democratic
> processes work. Those who have seen and experienced nothing but the
> dysfunctional desi-system, are exempt. Umesh is included. He gets an extra
> reprieve because he has been so disoriented.
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Ram Sarangapani
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Cc: ASSAMNET
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> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:47 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Assam] Reforms - The CONCLUSION
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> Umesh,
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> Thats the wrong question for C'da. Look what he wrote:
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> "Question is who will take charge of such reforms, NOW? The answer is that
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> there are plenty of people, right in Assam--and outside too, to take it on.
> Ready, willing and able.
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>
> But they cannot do that under prevailing Indian rule. That is the difference."
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> So, basically what he is saying is, yes we have all the capable people who
> are willing and able, BUT CANNOT do so because of the "Indian Rule"
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> Obviously, what he means is that Assam will be in this state, until and
> unless Assam is free of India.
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>
> But, practical people anywhere will tell you that for Assam to get out of
> "Indian rule" is next to impossible. Why?
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> 1) Many Assamese itself DO NOT support independence or be outside of India.
> They think they are Indians.
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> 2) ULFA or others have been trying for this for 25 + years
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> 3) India will never give up an inch of its territory (inspite of various
> arguments and philosophies why "Indian domination" is
> bad/unwarranted/illegal).
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> If those are the stark realities, what would reasonable people do to make the
> best of a bad situation?
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> I think, they would work within this present system and try and do what they
> can for Assam, for its people, its development,and other problems.
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> Sometimes I think this continuing insurgency is a big money-churner for many
> - politicians, GOI, GOA, ULFA, businesses and bureaucrats. Many people have
> the potential to make it big if there is a continuing instability - and of
> course damn the common folks of Assam. They do not fall into any equation.
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> And, all we can say is "just you wait" :)
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> You make a valid point about urgency of reform needed in Assam and also that
> there are people who can and are willing to take up. Who stops them? Is
> someone at Delhi bent on killing them or maiming them?
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> C-da wrote:
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> "If Rajen or your assertions are accurate that Assam is the most corrupt of
> the various colonies of India, then it behooves it needs those reforms, NOW!
> The sickest needs the treatments most urgently.
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> Question is who will take charge of such reforms, NOW? The answer is that
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> there are plenty of people, right in Assam--and outside too, to take it on.
> Ready, willing and able.
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> But they cannot do that under prevailing Indian rule. That is the difference."
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> >But you must agree that ANY reform in India or Assam MUST come from an
> >informed >public.
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> *** Yes I do. And that is exactly why I asked for YOUR recommendations,
> Rajen's recommendations. But what did you show?
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> Therefore it follows that Assam cannot depend on its intelligentsia
> establishment, the supposedly informed lot, the one that controls the media,
> the economy and the political machinery -- and even its purported cream of
> the crop of NRA's in the west.
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> Certainly not on its uninformed, uneducated masses, struggling merely to
> survive against the incredible odds, while their assets, resources are being
> plundered and looted by India and partially being redistributed to a tiny
> minority of Assam's privileged.
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> But that does not mean Assam ought to wait for India to effect the reforms
> that it had decades to start with and demonstrate a trend. It did did not,
> because it cannot. Assam will have to do it for itself. Take charge of its
> own future!
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> You make the argument of other states prospering in spite of the
> dysfunctional Indian governance. And thus you demand the same from Assam.
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> It is a preposterous argument. Imagine demanding an ill-fed, poor child of
> illiterate parents from the slums same performance as children of IAS Babus
> or Engineers or Doctors because they go ,to the same school. That is exactly
> what you are doing.
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> Assam's circumstances are not the same as Karnataka's, or Tamil Nadu's or
> Bihar's. Assam must do what it needs to under its own circumstances, and not
> what Karnataka does or West Bengal does.
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> Assam must REFORM and RE-order its governance for its own sake, because it is
> essential for its survival and progress, regardless of what India does or
> does not.
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> And even if I were to accept your argument -- which I don't--that some Indian
> states are prospering in-spite of their broken governance, it still makes no
> sense for Assam to labor under it--because its circumstances does not give it
> that luxury. If Rajen or your assertions are accurate that Assam is the most
> corrupt of the various colonies of India, then it behooves it needs those
> reforms, NOW! The sickest needs the treatments most urgently.
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> Question is who will take charge of such reforms, NOW? The answer is that
>
> there are plenty of people, right in Assam--and outside too, to take it on.
> Ready, willing and able.
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> I fully agree its a major component. The laws do exist for such punishment,
> and they would be implemented at a much faster speed if the 'public', the
> media and others are on top it it and expose corrupt individuals and till
> punishments are rendered. Jail time for those stealing public funds always
> existed. Politicians & the powerful have been able to thwart legal
> proceedings by employing corrupt practices and circumventing and undermining
> the system.
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> With the resent cash for questions, the media having exposed these powerful
> politicians, they have been expelled. The CBI and the Auditor General's
> office are now contemplating civil actions against the culprits. At least the
> national media is keeping on top of it. And things are NOT that easy for the
> errant Delhi politician.
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> > Remember when ULFA executed a few of those officials how Assam was all
> > agog?. And I was >told -- it is second hand info, I was not there -- that
> > there was a visible reduction of demands for >bribes and such
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> Probably so, and goo too - but it didn't last long, did it? As soon as people
> found out that all the ULFA was trying to do was corner the market on
> thieving. All that did was replace the regular thieves with the 'patroitic'
> thieves for a while, till people found out the extent of their patriotism.
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> But more importantly - even murdering a few corrupt did nothing to DETER
> corruption on a permanent basis, did it?
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> >Undertake a major reform of the laws of the land. Throw most of them out.
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> Good suggestion. Agreed. But do you also think such demands must come from a
> population who is uder the yoke? Why would you assume the corrupt to take it
> upon themselves to undertake such reforms and in the process kill the golden
> goose?
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> Why can't the AASU, and the other various student bodies and the opposition
> and even ULFA make sure the corrupt get the message and in strong terms - or
> else. Where are these patriots when we need them? Why can't Assam's
> intellectuals and writers fill up the media with stories of corrupt and
> paste the photos of corrupt politicians and bureaucrats?
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> Could you guess why nobody is interested?
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> >Reform the court systems. Decentralize them. Give powers to resolve disputes
> >to local bodies. >Let simple issues be decided according to traditional
> >ways. Dispose of pending cases
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> >and make sure cases get heard and resolved in a reasonable time frame.
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> Again, a very good suggestion, I am all for it. Who will do the reforming?
> And why should there be any reform without suggestions coming from a silent
> population?
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> >And make sure politicians cannot order them around-- by making the EXECUTIVE
> >branch >INDEPENDENT of the legislative - the elected cadres.
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> I have got to hand it to C'da - you are at your best, and that too all this
> without demands for independence.
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> It is indeed a great idea. But you must agree that ANY reform in India or
> Assam MUST come from an informed public. A public that makes sure it is not a
> part of the problem, a public that has a long-term memory, a public that will
> not take it lying down, and a public that is willing to take to task by
> employing the media, public interest lawsuits, the voting machines and other
> forms of protests.
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> The biggest fear of a politician is keeping the 'gadhi' and reelection. If
> the gadhi is at stake for small crimes, they sure as heck will become squeaky
> clean, real fast.
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> >I am sorry to say this Ram: Your advice on this matter has no use for Assam,
> >or India.
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> Heh! heh! heh! C'da - what can I say, that is the best I can give - even on
> good days :)
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> --Ram
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> On 1/2/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> You repeated a whole bunch of vague generalities, hoping for some miracle to
> change attitudes. You did not have a single practical, achievable means to
> suggest, like a functioning governmental system MUST have.
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> Let me give you another clue: What is happening to Tom DeLay? And what
> happened to that very powerful Rep. Dan Rostenskowski of Chicago? Or the
> Governor of Connecticut last year? If you don't know, the latter two are in
> prison. Why? Corruption in office.
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> That Ram is called accountability. It is DETERRENCE. Accountability brings
> deterrence. Indian governance has no means for holding anyone accountable.
> There is no deterrence. Even if an official is prosecuted, he would live
> happily ever after knowing that he can keep delaying any action, even if it
> gets heard in his lifetime, until he is long gone.
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> The other alternative is INSURGENTs' justice. Remember when ULFA executed a
> few of those officials how Assam was all agog?. And I was told -- it is
> second hand info, I was not there -- that there was a visible reduction of
> demands for bribes and such. People were all very supportive of ULFA's
> justice. But it is NOT a dependable system is it? And then came the Indian
> military, and now the military officers run drugs from Myanmar under official
> cover. Heard of that Ram?
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> Or would you prefer partisan dictatorial rule a-la Indira Gandhi's Emergency,
> when corrupt officials without political cover all of a sudden turned law
> abiding, and trains were running on time?
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> What you should have known and recommended were things like:
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> Throw most of them out. There are too many now that empower corrupt
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> officials and deter law abiding citizens.
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> Reform the court systems. Decentralize them. Give powers
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> to resolve disputes to local bodies. Let simple issues be
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> decided according to traditional ways. Dispose of pending cases
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> and make sure cases get heard and resolved in a reasonable time
> frame.
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> Completely revamp police -- re-train them as SERVANTS of the people,
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> not their bosses, empowered to dispense summary justice. Give them
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> equipment, a salary to make a living without stealing, hire educated
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> cadres who are able to investigate and aid prosecution. And make sure
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> politicians cannot order them around-- by making the EXECUTIVE branch
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> That would bring the issue of making enlightened and effective
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> enforceable laws. Indian election system does not allow that. Reform
> it
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> And if you could have shown how all these could be effected under Indian
> rule, your protestations would have carried some water. But you could not. I
> don't know whether you are really unaware of how it is done or you resorted
> to the pithy platitudes to justify your pre-determined answer. Neither is
> good.
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> I am sorry to say this Ram: Your advice on this matter has no use for Assam,
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> >not repeat is that the >Assamese are lazy too
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> I am surprised. I have never said people are LAZY. You may have drawn some
> implications or confused me with someone else. But thats OK - I have had
> words put in my mouth before :)
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> C'da - it is NOT just Govt. corruption. Corruption is all too pervasive, at
> least in the major cities and towns of Assam. It is come to such a pass, that
> nothing works till palms are greased. People take it in their stride and for
> granted. Cost of doing business?
>
> As for insurgents - who initially came out like Robin Hoods, turned out to be
> mostly hoods.
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> Lastly, and the sad part is that Assam is often cited as a great example of
> inefficiency and corruption. While there is also corruption in other states,
> the levels are much, much lower, the govts. far more responsive to citizenry
> needs, and law & order is maintained pretty well in a number of states.
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> I have written before - my guess would be a drastic change in attitudes,
> viewing responsibilities, froming citizen groups (there are some already in
> Guwahati to deal with some problems, and they are having success), making
> sure politicains and the corrupt, and the inept are given full coverage in
> the media (like a Tehelka) and expose corrupt ministers and bureaucrats, and
> even elections - they work sometimes and a fresh set of ministers will be
> more careful in corrupt practices.
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> But saying that its all the GOI's fault and the only salvation is some sort
> of severance is really not a solution .
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> Once our house is in order, I am with you all the way to hold the GOI/Center
> to keep their end of the bargain and also teach them a thing or two about
> able governance.
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> And how will the good citizens deal with such a menace
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> On 1/2/06, Chan Mahanta < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ram:
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> I am perfectly willing to go right along with you, and hold GoA's feet to the
> fire. But I don't know how. Just like all the other people in Assam that
> would like to do just that. That is why I asked you, I asked Rajen to show
> all these people complaining and rebelling and seeking to re-orient Assam
> governance and other such unpatriotic stuff.
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> And so I was hoping for a no-nonsense action plan from you about how to go
> hold GoA's feet to the fire.
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> All you gave us the same old same old. That the govt. is inefficient, the
> people are corrupt. Only thing you did not repeat is that the Assamese are
> lazy too and so deserve what they get. But that must have been a slip :-).
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> Let me give you a little help here. Take the one subject no-one disgrees with
> here: About Govt. corruption.
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> How do you see the citizenry deal with it?
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> Surely they go to the polls, vote in great numbers, eliciting
> desi-demokrasy-devotees' cries of --see how democracy is working -- accolades.
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> They even vote some them out, leading the political class ( not to mention
> NRA political observers) to declare -- SEE there is accountability, they get
> voted out. Was Indira Gandhi not voted out too?
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> But what good has that done about abating corruption?
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> So tell us how an intelligent, well informed person like yourself, who has
> seen one of the best managed democracies in the world at work for decades,
> will go about holding GoA's feet to the fire, and take corruption on, USING
> the tools that desi-demokrasy gives you.
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> We shall be all ears! And if you cannot tell us, then face the fact that your
> protestations do not hold any water .
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> At 10:15 AM -0600 1/2/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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> C'da,
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> >So, your gripe is with pointing fingers at GoI.
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> Not at all. But when we do so, it might be fair to point some of those
> fingers inward - toward Assam as well. We do need to have some sense of
> introspection.
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> >But GoA derives its existence and its powers from Goi's doings and in its
> >image
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> That is one fine way of avoiding responsibilties and giving Assam a pass.
> Yes, in the present system, Assam, like every other state, depends on Central
> funds or laws for continuing its governance. You may not like the system, and
> that is OK, but given that all states go thru the same thing, why is it that
> states like Assam & Bihar are clubbed togther and often cited as inefficient
> states?
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> But we have seen - time and again, funds to Assam are grossly
> mis-appropriated, and the left over funds that could not be, are returned to
> the Central pool. There is probably little accounting for the Centrally
> allocated funds, but probably no accounting for state collected funds like
> sales tax or duties.
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> Politicians and the powerful in Assam (for all the drumbeatings) have little
> or no integrity left. The state is one of the most corrupt. One person, I
> talked to said proudly, defending the 'State of the State' this way " nohoi,
> aaji kali kisu kaam hoi - aagote, 80% poisa khai diya, kintu, aaji kali, 60%
> man khai".
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> As I said earlier, it is pretty common to hear people say that NO ONE that is
> anyone is Assam is really interested in solving her problems. If problems are
> solved, the revenue sources dry up. Thats not good!
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> The Center too is NOT interested, because - heck the state representatives
> don't really care, so why should they. They can go pay attention to some
> whining state like Bihar. Whatever is said in public is usually for the
> birds.
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> There are very, very few powerful people left who are actually thinking about
> the state and her people (and not themselves). And even if some of them may
> see independence as a solution, at least one can attest to their integrity
> and selflessness.
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> So, it really doesn't matter WHAT type of Govt. there is at the Center. The
> %age of poisa khua may reduce a little, but khobo kintu thik! Just a matter
> of degrees!
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> That is the express reason, why the GOA's feet must be held to the fire.
> Going around Guwahati, one finds dilapidated roads, buildings and amenities.
> Most of the places resemble big slums. Even institutions like the Gauhati
> University, which we were so proud of, show signs of continual neglect and
> decay.
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> The GU professors don't get paid on time (they get paid around the 10th or
> 15th). On pay days -there is huge rush at the bank - its like first come
> first serve (if you come last, you may not get paid).
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> School teachers are not paid sometimes for months or even years. College
> teachers and government employees get paid every so often. So, why would we
> expect govt. employees tecahers etc to work, when the chances of them getting
> paid are slim. Their only pickings are 'bhaira poisa' - and why NOT? And for
> teachers, it is 'tuition'. Bhaira tuition is big business these days. Talking
> to some teachers, one told me, that the big thing is to somehow get a teacher
> sakori, (preferably 'subject teacher' even if it pays low (RS. 1500 or so) at
> the begining. But once in, the teacher can make big money by tuition only.
> Once entrenched, all they have to do is show up for a couple of hours.
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> Bottomline is we can paint a GENERAL picture that the system of govenance
> needs to be changed (more power to states etc). That may actually be very
> good for some states, who are performing wonderfully even though they have
> the same handicap - the central governance.
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> But for a state like Assam, such a change may actaully push it into some deep
> chasm.
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> IMHO, Assam first needs to show that IT CAN manage its own affairs
> efficiently. She should be able to show that corruption and inefficiency is
> eradicated. Our people should be able to demand more from their
> representatives, and not sit by taking whatever is dished out. Yes, everyone
> can play a positive role and make the state a much better place.
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> And then, we can all hold our heads high and tell the GOI and the Center to
> take a hike and ask them to follow the example we have set. Until then, I
> don't we have much of a leg to stand on.
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> --Ram
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