That is why I asked about Hurricane Katrina where the black community was 
subjected to continual harrasment and their social griveiances never redressed. 
The black-white within the larger issue of racism continues to linger on.

Now are we comparing apples with apples??

Tell us what your US of A did in this case and how it solved a 200 year old 
problem. 

Rgds,
SD

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>In the US, we have several examples (which C'da will be glad to expand on, I 
>am sure).



*** Yes, but we are comparing apples and oranges.




>Elian Gonzalez


** It was case of enforcement of a court order. No one was killed if I am not 
mistaken.




>Ruby Ridge


*** It was a case of criminal kidnapping.


>David Koresh


*** Again a criminal case of confinement and refusal to submit to a court 
order, leading to a police/paramiltary raid, to defy which the inmates of the 
commune committed mass suicide.




None of these were anything akin to political /social disaffections , ignored 
by authorities, leading to demonstrations that turned into rioting terminated 
by military /police firing against their OWN PEOPLE.










At 8:29 AM -0600 5/31/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
Just to butt in here a bit.
 
In the US, we have several examples (which C'da will be glad to expand on, I am 
sure).
 
Elian Gonzalez
Ruby Ridge
David Koresh
 
In the last two, (it wasn't the US Army) but paramil. forces - people got killed

 
On 5/31/07, SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Still waiting to hear what happens in similar situations in US of A - say like 
if some African Americans were to protest again over Hurricane Katrina? Maybe 
we should learn and implement similar policies here.
 
Do they get 125 yrs jail...or Guantanamo Bay?.......or there's political 
settlement?
 
Rgds,
Sandip

 
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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:56:42 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujar

it confirms my opinion that Gujjars are not that backward -- in comparison to 
the tribes /castes who are in SC ST category -- nobody oppresses them - but 
they are maig this demand after upper caste have got 10% reservation in 
Rajasthan and Jats -another dominant warrior caste (rules Alwar and Haryana) 
has been included in OBC category by former Congress govt. of Rajasthan

Umesh

SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Think deeper" - he he!
 
How much deep info did you have about Meenas, Gujjars etc in Rajasthan? - 
before you read the BBC report?
 
And you already decided it was a legitimate demand?
 
BTW, you didnt answer what happens in the US of A.
 
Rgds,
Sandip

 
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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:10:05 PM
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Sandip:

 
You need to to think a little DEEPER!

 
WHY did RIOTING have to take place to begin with? Did these people wake up one 
fine morning and decided, : Heck, things are dull,  let us go burn some buses 
today and  cut-off policemen's limbs?

 
Think about it and come back with your questions again.

 
sd

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
At 6:06 AM -0700 5/31/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:

Hello Sondon Da,

 

As far as I understand, police and RAF are meant to maintain law & order and 
prevent rioters getting out of hand. Thats their job. Army is called in only 
when situation gets out of control. Same approach is applied everywhere. Local 
Admin calls in the army. In this case, Rajasthan police had no experience 
handling anything of this kind in the last many decades.

 

May we know what approach is taken towards rioters who use violence as a form 
of protest and then try justifying it - in the worlds greatest demokrasy - your 
home, the United EStates of Amrika? I mean people who damage govt. property, 
possibly kill and maim others and try to undermine state authority?


 

Rgds,

SD

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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:59:35 AM
Subject: [Assam] BBC E-mail: Army deployed after India riots

Chandan Mahanta saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
should see it.

** Message **
This is typical of the Indian state's conflict resolution program, which has 
not changed in sixty years after freedom.

** Army deployed after India riots **
Troops are deployed in India's Rajasthan state after 14 people are killed in 
clashes over government job quotas.
< http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/6703133.stm >


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