Oh! I forgot, C'da
LA riots (after the OJ Simpson thing), NY Black out . maybe I am
forgetting a few.
But you are right, the US has far fewer of such riots than India or
most of the up & coming economies do. And that can be attributed,
in general, to the limited resources, and too many people these
countries have.
If some of the countries have democracies, there are demonstrations,
protests etc - which often go haywire. If they are NOT democratic
then they can be quelled swiftly.
The right to bandhs, hartals, strikes are possible in India because
its a democracy and they happen because there is NOT enough to go
around. It does not happen in the US because most of the most
common things have already been met.
--Ram
On 5/31/07, Chan Mahanta
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In the US, we have several examples (which C'da will be glad to
expand on, I am sure).
*** Yes, but we are comparing apples and oranges.
>Elian Gonzalez
** It was case of enforcement of a court order. No one was killed if
I am not mistaken.
>Ruby Ridge
*** It was a case of criminal kidnapping.
>David Koresh
*** Again a criminal case of confinement and refusal to submit to a
court order, leading to a police/paramiltary raid, to defy which the
inmates of the commune committed mass suicide.
None of these were anything akin to political /social disaffections
, ignored by authorities, leading to demonstrations that turned into
rioting terminated by military /police firing against their OWN
PEOPLE.
At 8:29 AM -0600 5/31/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
Just to butt in here a bit.
In the US, we have several examples (which C'da will be glad to
expand on, I am sure).
Elian Gonzalez
Ruby Ridge
David Koresh
In the last two, (it wasn't the US Army) but paramil. forces -
people got killed
On 5/31/07, SANDIP DUTTA <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Still waiting to hear what happens in similar situations in US of A
- say like if some African Americans were to protest again over
Hurricane Katrina? Maybe we should learn and implement similar
policies here.
Do they get 125 yrs jail...or Guantanamo Bay?.......or there's
political settlement?
Rgds,
Sandip
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<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujar>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujar
it confirms my opinion that Gujjars are not that backward -- in
comparison to the tribes /castes who are in SC ST category -- nobody
oppresses them - but they are maig this demand after upper caste
have got 10% reservation in Rajasthan and Jats -another dominant
warrior caste (rules Alwar and Haryana) has been included in OBC
category by former Congress govt. of Rajasthan
Umesh
SANDIP DUTTA <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Think deeper" - he he!
How much deep info did you have about Meenas, Gujjars etc in
Rajasthan? - before you read the BBC report?
And you already decided it was a legitimate demand?
BTW, you didnt answer what happens in the US of A.
Rgds,
Sandip
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To: SANDIP DUTTA < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Chandan Mahanta <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:10:05 PM
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Sandip:
You need to to think a little DEEPER!
WHY did RIOTING have to take place to begin with? Did these people
wake up one fine morning and decided, : Heck, things are dull, let
us go burn some buses today and cut-off policemen's limbs?
Think about it and come back with your questions again.
sd
At 6:06 AM -0700 5/31/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
Hello Sondon Da,
As far as I understand, police and RAF are meant to maintain law &
order and prevent rioters getting out of hand. Thats their job. Army
is called in only when situation gets out of control. Same approach
is applied everywhere. Local Admin calls in the army. In this case,
Rajasthan police had no experience handling anything of this kind in
the last many decades.
May we know what approach is taken towards rioters who use violence
as a form of protest and then try justifying it - in the
worlds greatest demokrasy - your home, the United EStates of Amrika?
I mean people who damage govt. property, possibly kill and maim
others and try to undermine state authority?
Rgds,
SD
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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:59:35 AM
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Chandan Mahanta saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
should see it.
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This is typical of the Indian state's conflict resolution program,
which has not changed in sixty years after freedom.
** Army deployed after India riots **
Troops are deployed in India's Rajasthan state after 14 people are
killed in clashes over government job quotas.
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