Yes Ram. But what I wrote was in the CONTEXT of our discourse.
Let us not discard context.
At 12:56 PM -0600 10/3/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
1.
>BTW, the meaning of the word INQUISITION, as you understand it and
use it in "---that we did >not subject the leaders to frequent
inquisitions," is NOT what it is. If you look it up, you will >know
that it means: A rigorous, harsh, interrogation, one that
disregards the privacy rights, feelings etc. >of the target. One
that does not allow the target to ask questions, one sided inquiry.
C'da, excuse me for butting in. The is NOT the whole story. There
are other meanings. See below (Highlighted ones) - straight from the
dictionary. Hazarika, I am sure, could have used any of the other
ones.
But to justify your point, (1) or (2) could be used :)
______________
<http://1.an>1.an official investigation, esp. one of a political or
religious nature, characterized by lack of regard for individual
rights, prejudice on the part of the examiners, and recklessly cruel
punishments.
2. 2. any harsh, difficult, or prolonged questioning.
3. 3. the act of inquiring; inquiry; research.
4. 4. an investigation, or process of inquiry.
5. 5. a judicial or official inquiry.
6. 6. the finding of such an inquiry.
7. 7. the document embodying the result of such inquiry
--Ram
On 10/3/07, Chan Mahanta
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Hazarika. I knew I could count on you to see my genius in
deflecting attention away from what matters most to the
self-righteous . I shall remember your generosity in offering to
nominate your not-so-humble servant for a Novel Prize :-).
But levity aside, allow me ask you and other wise folks once more,
IF Utpal's aim was merely to assert that ULFA 's aims have no
validity, WHY on earth does he or his fan club need Ruby Bhuyan or
whoever to answer anything?
They already know they are right and ULFA is wrong. They can go
right on with their monologs as some of our friends do right here in
assamnet with the pomposity and certitude of God himself.
Am I spinning here? Is it an irrelevant question? An unreasonable
one? One designed to obfuscate and muddy some higher truths?
Tell us H. Go right ahead and mince no words. Educate us.
>AIM of GOALS , what a fantastically creative phrase. Frankly I
have come across this phrase for the first >time in my life.
*** Sorry H, but conveniently cut and pasted words of mine to
devalue what I wrote does not rescue your sinking effort here. I
wrote:
"What is missing from the exercises is a rudimentary
element of AIM of GOALS. "
I did however miss the comma between the two. That I remain guilty
of. But to attempt to use that bit of typo, or solecism if you
prefer, is riskier than groping at straws, won't you think?
> If one has beliefs, one must be ready to face INQUISITIONS.
****Is that your best argument here H?
Good sermon, I am sure. But you need a flock to listen to it. I may
be off the wall here, but somehow I get this feeling that ULFA is
not about to make a beeline to listen to or pay heed to your sermon.
What do you think?
BTW, the meaning of the word INQUISITION, as you understand it and
use it in "---that we did not subject the leaders to frequent
inquisitions," is NOT what it is. If you look it up, you will know
that it means: A rigorous, harsh, interrogation, one that
disregards the privacy rights, feelings etc. of the target. One that
does not allow the target to ask questions , one sided inquiry.
Therefore, had you attempted to subject them to your 'inquisition',
the results might have been less than what you have hoped for. Just
like it won't work with ULFA today . To disregard it merely displays
one's delusion, that's all.
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At 10:53 PM +0530 10/3/07, shantikam hazarika wrote:
What a wonderful deflection from the main issue. Chandan Mahanta,
you are really a master at it. If there is a Nobel equivalent, I
would strongly recommend you for the same.
Poor Utpal. I am sure he, and many like him, have been itching to
ask them some questions which are lurking in the minds of almost all
Assamese people. He got a chance and asked them, in plain, straight
forward English language, without any ambiguity. So, attack his
"design" in asking these questions, since, frankly, they and their
sympathisers have no answers.
I remember, in one of the seminars organised by the students of the
Assam Institute of Management on Assam's current critical problems,
Sanjib Sabhapandit used a curious phrase: "Don't intellectualise
Assam's problems." Well, here we are seeing an effort to
intellectualise even simple and honest queries to those who seem to
have solutions to Assam's problems.
No one in Assam is quite clear as to what these people are fighting
for. A large number of the people of Assam believe that there is a
big nexus that sustains them, that they are anything but
revolutionaries, and when opportunities are provided to them to
justify their actions, they run away and leave it to people like
Chandan mahanta, ensconced in the middle of the USA, to obfuscate
the issues on their behalf. This is indeed a gem:
Quote
Where is the ORDINARY integrity expected of the intelligentsia
here, if one can misuse the English word under the circumstances?
The sincerity of purpose?
It is obvious that those who consider themselves the 'educated'
and'wise', unlike ULFA, and who parade around wearing the garbs of
pillars-of society do not think so and thus the eloquent outpourings
of disappointment, not to mention the offenses to their genteel
sensitivities . Not just that, the self-fulfilling prophecies too of
the band of braves indulging in the "hola gosot baagi kuthar mora"
enterprise, justification why their masters don't talk to them, or
should not.
unquote
AIM of GOALS, what a fantastically creative phrase. Frankly I have
come across this phrase for the first time in my life. May I add,
AIM of GOALS of OBJECTIVES?
If one has beliefs, one must be ready to face INQUISITIONS. In fact,
the mistakes we made during the Assam Movement was that we did not
subject the leaders to frequent inquisitions, which resulted in the
movement being led astray.
Apologists, awake, arise and continue to give proxies for those who
have lost the way long ago. After all you have nothing to lose.
Shantikam Hazarika
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:33:27 -0500
To: <mailto:assam@assamnet.org>assam@assamnet.org
From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Assam] What a response!!
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Before we pass judgement on the response, we also ought to be able
to judge the QUESTION.
What were the questions posed by Utpal designed to ?
To help him and others decide, if what ULFA has been fighting for,
Assam's sovereignty, is a sound and beneficial move for Assam?
And if they are persuaded by ULFA's response that they are sound,
Utpal and others would SUPPORT it?
Or were they designed to extract an admission from ULFA, that their
own notions and beliefs, that it is
patently bad for Assam, never mind HOW or WHY they have concluded
that their notions and beliefs are the truly wise and considered
opinions?
Is it therefore REASONABLE to evaluate INTENT for ULFA before
submitting itself to the INQUISITION?
Where is the ORDINARY integrity expected of the intelligentsia
here, if one can misuse the English word under the circumstances?
The sincerity of purpose?
It is obvious that those who consider themselves the 'educated'
and'wise', unlike ULFA, and who parade around wearing the garbs of
pillars-of society do not think so and thus the eloquent outpourings
of disappointment, not to mention the offenses to their genteel
sensitivities . Not just that, the self-fulfilling prophecies too of
the band of braves indulging in the "hola gosot baagi kuthar mora"
enterprise, justification why their masters don't talk to them, or
should not.
What is missing from the exercises is a rudimentary element of AIM
of GOALS. Never mind the need to explore the reasons WHY ten
thousand plus Oxomiyas have given their lives. No doubt their lives
were nearly not as valuable as one Sanjoy Ghosh's.
Aimless exercises unfortunately lead to nowhere. With such pillars
of society looking after its well-being, one hardly needs enemies to
tear it down.
cm
At 11:19 AM +0530 10/3/07, shantikam hazarika wrote:
It seems that some of us are being branded as part of an "unhappy
gang with their so-called education". And they would be 'selective'
in answering their questions; which means they would only reply to
'sincere' questions, from 'real questioners' after their 'background
check done'.
Well, in case they have to do a background check in my case, let me
tell you that my life has been an open book and if a background
check is requird in my case, it simly shows how much these people
are in touch with reality or the ground situations.
Incidentally, let me also tell, that there has been enough
background checks done about these people, their cohorts,
sympathisers, beneficiaries, supporters, hangers one and what not.
Lot of people already know who benefits from their actions, who are
actually propping them up. For example when they killed Sanjay
Ghosh, it did not require much background check to find out why they
did so, what was the nexus behind that sordid deal and who would be
the real losers if Majuli is genuinely saved in a very cost
effective manner. Obviously, they are buying time to prepare some
obfuscating response, what we may call "saale bere kobowa" reply in
the name of background checks and what not.
Also they have already said that they would ignore "halfwit
questions and questioners". How more selective can your comfort zone
be...
Interestingly, I was reading something today and I came across the
follwoing phrase: The truth is that many terrorists are doing very
well out of violence. Extortion rackets give them a lifestyle they
cannot aspire in times of peace. They have money, excitement and
status: what more you seek in life?
Mantabya nisproyojan.
Shantikam Hazarika
Director,
Assam Institute of Management
PO Box 30, GUWAHATI 781001, India
HOME PAGE: <http://www.aimguwahati.edu.in/>www.aimguwahati.edu.in
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:17:14 +0100
From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <mailto:assam@assamnet.org> assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] assam Digest, Vol 26, Issue 66
To: assamonline
ULFA invites genuine sincere questions from persons(not gangs)
not happy with their so-called education ,wanting to KNOW how to
fight and win their great future in sovereign Assam .
Firstly we will have background checks done on real (?)
questioners. Please tolerate delays.
ULFA will ignore halfwit questions and questioners who think they
already know and are already bonded mentally or monetarily.
With Best Regards to respectable Assamonliners,
Rubi
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