At 8:35 PM -0700 10/15/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da
OK try this map:
http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/india/southwestmonsoon.htm
**** I did. It showed the DATES of monsoon's onset in various parts of India.
Did this show the monsoon wind directions that would have validated
your expert opinion on how the SW monsoons visiting Assam and the
NE doubles back , unable to unload its moisture where intended; over
to the Gangetic plains and on to finally unload it in Rajasthan and
Delhi; like you
learned from your long studies at the world renowned Wiki U ?
Do you even know the basic mechanism of how these monsoon winds carry
water and why or where they unload them? Do you know how the
Western Ghats or the Aravalli ranges affect the monsoon rain patterns
in Western and North Western India , that an ordinary high school kid
ought to know like WE did about the Himalayas, the Garo and Khasi
Hills and so forth?
which shows that on June 1 South West monsoon Bay of Bengal branch
simultaneously enter Kerala in the South and Imphal in NE India and
then moves northwest wards reaching Delhi bu July 1.
***** Those are not monsoon wind patterns for crying out loud! They
are date of arrival graphs.
Do you even read maps, graphs etc.? Sheeesh!!
Umesh
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [Assam] Monsoons and Global Warming -- Fish market- As
At 8:32 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,
You can trust me on this one -- the weblink you sent me is really
pathetic and half baked.
**** Really? Awright! You are the expert, I am just a kharkhowa.
So why don't you tell us what your conclusion is:
Do you UMesh, a shining graduate of climatology/meteorology
of Wiki U, therefore stand
behind the notion , that those little tankers carrying
monsoon moisture to Assam
and the contiguous areas , finding no one in the receiving
rooms, double back on their
sales route down the Brahmaputra valley on to the Gangetic
plains inhabited by
poor Indians unable to pay for merchandise, go on to Delhi
and Rajasthan to deliver their
loads a month later?
Is that what you learned?
I know I won't get an answer to the question, but since you can't
see what stared you on your face; the website I sent a link for,
showed the monsoon wind patterns that generate from the Bay of
Bengal and the Arabian sea. It also showed the high and low
pressure points in the south Asian region that usually cause the
monsoon wind patterns that are considered NORMAL.
The Wiki account , more than likely was written by a desi
non-scientist. You, read it literally, like fundamentalists reads
their scriptures.
The wind patterns that cause what cause rains in NE and the West
ands North Indian regions are different, even though they overlap.
And the URL of the Indian meteorological dept. that you sent
triumphantly, does not tell anyone what the monsoon wind patterns
are . It merely tells us when monsoon arrives in different parts
of India.
Some expert you are!
Bay of Bengal Monsoon comes to NE first -drops a lot of rain and
drags over the Indo-gangetic plain slowly --raeching Thar desert
area (westernmost last -- having no moisture left -- so dry
deserts-- Thats how all Indian media reports .
Having grown in the said desert it is common knowledge how lucky
NE India is to be first to receive the clouds fresh from the sea.
Still you might like to see the detailed map of the "Advance of
Southwest Monsoon 2007" - if you scroll halfway down the webpage of
http://www.imd.ernet.in/section/nhac/dynamic/endmonsoonreport2007.htm
Umesh
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [Assam] Monsoons and Global Warming -- Fish market- As
Look up:
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7o.html
At 8:00 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,
I may not be a knowall like you but I try to say what I have read
somewhere. I read this in Indian textbooks and learnt from my
father who has an interest in geography and has travelled all over
the Himalays - NE portion to Western Himalayas . Do not ask me to
go there and prove it all - neither can you- we say what we have
read-- maybe what you read was taught only at IITs .
http://www.nature.com/news/2006/061127/full/news061127-12.html
climat change
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsoon
"The Bay of Bengal Branch of SW Monsoon flows over the
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Bengal>Bay of Bengal heading
towards
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North-East_India>North-Eastern India
and <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal>Bengal, picking up more
moisture from the <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Bengal>Bay
of Bengal. Its hits the
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalaya>Eastern Himalaya and
provides a huge amount of rain to the regions of
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North-East_India>North-East India,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh>Bangladesh and
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bengal>West Bengal.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherrapunji>Cherrapunji, situated on
the southern slopes of the
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalaya>Eastern Himalaya in
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shillong>Shillong,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India>India is one of the wettest
places on Earth. After striking the
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalaya>Eastern Himalaya it turns
towards the <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West>West, travels over
the
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Gangetic_Plain>Indo-Gangetic
Plain, at a rate of roughly 1-2 weeks per
state[<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources>citation
needed], pouring raining all along its way"
Satisfied?? Or do you accuse me of cooking up the data here at wiki also?
Umesh.
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [Assam] Fish market- Assam's queer trade/ warming - Fl
If we had to go by what is in the header, why do we even read what
is in the body of the e-mail?
It was not I who opened up with :
>Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India
would know-----
**** Where do you fancy yourself in? Those who have the slightest
knowledge of monsoons in India or the clueless bunch who fancy
themselves the 'know-it-all' ?
At 7:43 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da (Mr Know-all),
Since you know everything you might look again at the subject
header and tell us a few points about its main contents?
You have a habit of going at a tangent esp when your pet issue of
terrorist ULFA is challenged.
Umesh
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [Assam] Fish market- Assam's queer trade/ warming - Fl
I thought the insanity here was spewed by someone else who, being
clueless about simple high-school geography , unaware of the
direction of the main monsoons that bring rains to the NE, went
on to assert:
>Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would
know----- The winds continue >westwards and causing floods in
usually desert areas .
What is this? Some new desi climatology? That the southwest
monsoons, not being able to unload its moisture in the NE, swerves
back to the west in a sudden acute angle move and go drop its load
in Rajasthan?
For your info, the monsoons that bring rains to Assam, is
different from the one that brings rains to the Western Ghats or
to Rajasthan or to Delhi and farther up. It is not the one that
does a left-right-left-right and about -turn from Assam.
Westrern/northwestern Indian monsoons don't happen until later June
and early July, whereas the NE area monsoons arrive almost a month
earlier.
No, it is not because it takes that much time to take an about turn
from Assam and marching thru the Gangetic plains arrives in
Rajasthan a month later.
At 7:04 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,
I expected something more sane from you. You are debating about a
non issue - does it matter whether the wind come from St Louis ,
Missouri (your house) to reach Assam. The moot point is Assam has
very less flood time - only a week!!!!!! Which is blown out of
proportion by those who sy if flood is not tacled Assam cannot
develop.
Any pearls of wisdom from a supporter of ULFA like yourself. May I
remind you ULFA is branded a terrorist organization by USA in 2005.
How very patriotic of you!!!
Umesh
Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Re: [Assam] Fish market- Assam's queer trade/ warming - Fl
>Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would
know that warm moisture laden winds >flow inwards towards Assam and
rest of NE India in Spring onwards
Does Umesh the renowned, Harvard trained climatologist know what the
direction of the monsoon winds that bring rains to Assam and the
contiguous region are? Can he explain how it turns towards the west
all of a sudden? It would be very interesting to learn.
But something tells me we will be deprived of that bit of Rajasthani science.
At 3:39 PM -0700 10/14/07, umesh sharma wrote:
Hi,
While discussing with Ahsan-da Aziz the maker of the film
http://www.sonam.net.tc/
I learnt many things which might surprise some .
For one despite having ample water Assam imports fish from South
India - strange trade. The eggs are hatched in Assam , roe (young
little fish) are raised in Assam's fish farm - then they are sent
to Andhra Pradesh where they grwo and then brought all the way
back to be sold in Guwahati's fish markets ( a regular place where
ULFA places the bombs and kills civilians and also at the vegetable
market).
About floods I am told it is a week long activity in Assam - only
one week!! or ten days - and that due to global warming the
moisture is transported to deserts of Rajasthan which are seeing
unheard of floods in areas which never received any rains at all.
Cherapoonji - world's wettest place has seen no rains since all
that rainwater has shifted onwards to drop on Mumbai causing
massive unheard of floods.
Those with slightest knowledge of monsoon rains in India would know
that warm moisture laden winds flow inwards towards Assam and rest
of NE India in Spring onwards and when they reach Himalayas they
rise higher and cool down to form rain. Now it doesn't cool down
enough so no rain for NE India for past 2 years. (which have seen
ground water disappear over the years due to excessive population
and irrigation) thus I am sure thse guys are not complaing about
unheard of floods.
Umesh
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