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On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Manoj Das <dasm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Airport Metro line missed the deadline. Its an Anil Ambani venture.They're > fined Rs. 11.29 Cr for the delay. > > It won't affect the CWG. > > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Manoj Das <dasm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Nation ga-ga over games! From shame to fame. >> >> Just a few days back CWG was written off, OC discredited, India shamed. >> Today all TV channels, Newspapers are singing the glory of one of the sports >> greatst turnarounds. Yesterday I took my boss (CMD, NEDFi) to Rajghat to pay >> homage to Gandhiji on his birth anniversary, followed by a tour by roads of >> CWG venues. Delhi looks green, modern, shining. I felt so proud. It looks no >> less than Shanghai or Beijing minus the skyscrapers. Already people are >> talking about bidding for the Olympics. >> >> Roads ready. 7000 atheletes arrived. Games village is now a 5 star >> retreat, maintained by 5 star hotels of Delhi. The collapsed foot bridge >> reconstrudted by Indian Army Engineers in 6 days flat. 200,000 security >> personnel keeping eye on for spoilsport. >> >> Last night whole of Delhi was lit up, stadia, monuments, squares....New >> Metro line opened today. For those familiar with Delhi, line connects >> Central Secretariat via Khan Market, CGO, Jangpura, Lajpat Nagar, Mulchand, >> Nehru Place, Govindpuri, Kalkaji, Okhla, Jasola, Sarita Vihar. A new link >> road connecting UP via Ghaziabad from Kashmiri Gate opened today (Rs 4000 cr >> investment). CWG volunteers can be seen all around. I spoke to one volunteer >> about the 12000 nos of missing volunteers, he said most of them reappeared >> after the report in the media. >> >> For this evening's opening Prince of Wales has arrived. 4000 years of >> India's history and cultural heritage will eb on display in the 3 hr long >> extravaganza. I'll be there to witness! >> >> -mkd >> >> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmaha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> > India also said we'll provide food and accommodation just like you do >>> when we visit your home. So success of the party is measured in terms of how >>> >satisfied the guests are.If the guests rave about it, it is a success. If >>> India can make it happen with a modest amount of money, it is a bigger >>> success. >>> >>> >>> *** While it sounds like a reasonable proposition, let me as you this: >>> Would you, as a guest, badmouth the hosts if things didn't turn out too >>> well? >>> >>> Assuming your answer would be like mine, I would submit, the proposition >>> would not work too well as a yardstick for the success or lack thereof. >>> Failure actually would be something catastrophic, unlikely to happen. >>> >>> *** Therefore the only meaningful way to measure 'success' would be to >>> weigh it against the goals the organizers set for themselves, what they >>> proposed or promised or implied. >>> >>> >>> >>> > ^^^^ Yes it can be corrupt yet successful. However in this case >>> corruption led to incompetent contractors and delays in construction >>> resulting in the possibilty of a flop.Next few weeks will tell. >>> >>> >>> *** Pointing to corruption as the ONLY reason for the failures is really >>> an inability to accept the truths about India's ineptitudes and >>> incompetencies. I realize it is hard for the 'knowledge brigades' accept >>> such realities, particularly when they have a need to defend this national >>> identity/pride thang. It is so easy to point to corruption, something that >>> is presumably a problem caused and perpetuated by those who are outside the >>> realm of the educated, the competent and so forth. But the truth however is >>> far from it. >>> >>> If I had to point to the real cause of the failures thus far, I would >>> point to: Planning and management incompetence, dearth of technical and >>> vocational skills, >>> and a serious attitudinal problem rooted in culture. Misgovernment that >>> creates and sustains corruption merely enhances the negative forces. >>> >>> >>> >>> >I was just speculating ahead of time. What's your speculation? >>> >>> *** I don't feel the need to predict or speculate :-). Time will tell. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 27, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Dilip Deka wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > --- On Sun, 9/26/10, Chan Mahanta <cmaha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > On Sep 26, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Dilip Deka wrote: >>> > >>> >> I see two scenarios coming out of the CWG fiasco. >>> >> 1. India pulls it off at the last minute. CWG goes on and has a happy >>> ending >>> >> despite some minor mishaps. India claims a big success and brags about >>> it, "See, >>> >> we told you. It could be done. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE INDIA". >>> > >>> > >>> > **** First off: Define success. What will constitute a success, let >>> alone a BIG one? >>> > ^^^^ India is the host and they invited their friends from the CW to >>> come and play. India also said we'll provide food and accommodation just >>> like you do when we visit your home. So success of the party is measured in >>> terms of how satisfied the guests are.If the guests rave about it, it is a >>> success. If India can make it happen with a modest amount of money, it is a >>> bigger success. >>> > >>> >> 2. The CWG is a flop with major disasters and it starts major reform >>> in India in >>> >> terms of corruption. This happens because the middle class Indians get >>> insulted >>> >> and upset. It always takes a big event to make big changes. >>> > >>> > **** Similarly, WHAT would determine if it was a flop? >>> > >>> > ^^^^ It's a flop if the guests return home unhappy. In the analogy of a >>> party if that happens even after spending a huge sum of money, it is a >>> bigger flop. >>> > >>> > Only then one can delve into your question. Speaking of which, why do >>> you assume that >>> > in case of a FLOP, Indians would consider it an insult and demand >>> reforms to eradicate corruption. >>> > Is it CORRUPTION that is at the root of a possible flop? Why could it >>> not be corrupt yet successful? >>> > >>> > ^^^^ Yes it can be corrupt yet successful. However in this case >>> corruption led to incompetent contractors and delays in construction >>> resulting in the possibilty of a flop.Next few weeks will tell. >>> > >>> > I see a problem with the assumption that corruption is the cause for a >>> possible flop. Does >>> > competence not have a place in the equation? Nobody has accused China >>> of being free of corruption, but they proved how COMPETENT they are. In >>> other words competence and corruption are NOT mutually exclusive. Few would >>> complain IF competence could be demonstrated, would they? >>> > >>> > ^^^^ See response above. If competence was demonstrated despite >>> corruption, only a few would have been mad. Now everyone is mad.Let's wait >>> and see how the corrupt organizers (mind you some brits may be involved too) >>> pull it off. I was just speculating ahead of time. What's your speculation? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> >> What do you see? 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