>While I support UAONA objectives, it is NOT to the EXCLUSION of others involved with >such in our community. It is an important point to note I think.
Chandan:
When you think of it is not that the very objecttive of UAONA?. To take a passive role and involve others in the community who are working for such irrespective of organizational affiliations or not, and not to exclude anybody?
Rajen
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>Subject: Re: [Assam] RE: Unification
>Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:26:17 -0500
>
>That was a very informative and carries some very constructive ideas.
>Thanks Rajen.
>
>
>
> >But I bet his heart is in UAONA and he has already explained why UAONA
> >still exists.
>
>*** Just a clarification here: While I support UAONA objectives, it is NOT
>to the EXCLUSION of others involved with such in our community. It is an
>important point to note I think.
>
>
>
>
> >This year, AANA really snatched the joint convention from the San
> >Francisco community who were eager and willing to hold it. (Incidently we
> >never had any Assamese Convention is San Francisco so far.) Again, the
> >rest of the community gave in to AANA's wishes for the sake of unity.
> >In spite of this year�s hot e-mails, we hope that the Texas Host Committee
> >(which is predominantly AANA members) will be sensitive to ASA's views and
> >will be able to hold a successful joint convention and will continue
> >the tradition to the future.
>
>
>*** One of the problems of the AANA/ ASA organized conventions is that
>neither side is well represented in ALL regions of the country. Some AANA
>members are suspicious of regions where they have little or no
>representation --- (it became quite apparent in the St. Louis debate) even
>though the concerns were FRAMED in a more politically correct form.
>
>
>The same is true of ASA.
>
>
>
>*** It is for that reason I support the concept of autonomous host
>communities organizing these, with solicited assistance from the orgs.
>Perhaps if this could be sorted out by ASA and AANA, and a set of
>parameters agreed upon, which would also INCLUDE the non-aligned
>people; then this perennial point of contention could be resolved.
>
>
>
>
> >Coming back to your 'unification', my perception is, however, to go for a
> >Federal type of unification where all orgs enjoy their autonomy and
> >freedom, and at the same time united by a joint annual convention. With
> >this process, I also have great faith that we can still achieve
> >'unification' through Oxom Xahityo Xobha and AFNA. AFNA is already
> >opening up to the entire community. Some of us are trying so that Oxom
> >Xahityo Xobha also opens up to the entire community. So far we have
> >received very positive responses from AANA as well as ASA's sides in this
> >respect. Through this e-mail, I would like to appeal to the Oxom Xahitya
> >Xobha President to adopt a resolution this year so that all ASA members
> >become automatic Oxom Xahitya Xobha members (like AANA members). Also our
> >proposal is that the magazine 'Luitor Pora Misisipi' (an organ of Oxom
> >Xahityo Xobha) should be jointly published by both AANA and ASA (keeping
> >the same name) so that the cost can be shared and the magazine can be made
> >available to the entire community members.
>
>
>*** I hope this is seriously expolred and adopted. It is an incremental
>means for getting to where we would like to go to.
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>At 10:59 AM -0500 9/22/03, Rajen Barua wrote:
> >
> >
> >Dear Hazarika:
> >
> >
> >
> >Chandan has already adequately replied to your questions, and in fact
> >asked some more. I was thinking of making some clarifications to your
> >comments.
> >
> >
> >
> >First let me tell you that what you are doing may be said well by any of
> >the following Assamese proverbs:
> >
> >
> >
> >1) Hola gos dekhile ataie bagi kuthar mare.
> >
> >
> >
> >2) Urohor khong bhoga dharit.
> >
> >
> >
> >3) Raije Sale bere kwbwaise.
> >
> >
> >
> >4) Ebar xape khale Kesu.loikw bhoi.
> >
> >
> >
> >Etc
> >
> >
> >
> >>Since you were connected with the past unification efforts, I presumed you
> >
> >
> >
> >>knew what was the result of the past efforts.
> >
> >
> >
> >I am not trying to defend Chandan, but this is to refresh your and
> >everybody's memory that Chandan was not connected to any of the past
> >unification efforts of AANA and ASA that culminated in the doomed 1991
> >Philadelphia Joint Convention. As a matter of fact Chandan was not even
> >present in the said convention. So the above remark actually does not
> >apply to poor Chandan. On the other hand, while the result of the doomed
> >Convention is known to everybody, without going into details let me simply
> >say that Chandan's perception of reasons of the failure may be quite
> >different to yours and many others in the community as he could look at
> >the issue without any biasness either from AANA or ASA's side. That may
> >explain why he may be yet positive about the future of 'unification'
> >although many in the community term him (as well as some of us) as snakes
> >who simply refuse to die even after being killed.
> >
> >
> >
> > >Even after 5 successful joint conventions, UAONA still exists. Mahanta:
> >
> >
> >
> >>since you are one of the persons involved in the creation of UAONA, for the
> >
> >
> >
> >>benefit of the community, can you please explain why UAONA still exists? Do
> >
> >
> >
> >>you like to share some of your success/frustration/wisdom?
> >
> >
> >
> >Here again, I would ask you to refresh your memory to the fact that
> >Chandan was not at all involved in the creation of UAONA. But I bet his
> >heart is in UAONA and he has already explained why UAONA still exists.
> >Looking at the issue positively, one can say that UAONA was borne from the
> >ashes of Philadelphia to hold the divided community of AANA and ASA with
> >'jwra tapoli.' UAONA is acting rather like a 'dhwka'. The UAONA members,
> >at that time, thought that the 'dhwka' would be very temporary and would
> >be removed as soon as both AANA and ASA would unite. However, it is now 12
> >years (how time flies!) that UAONA is still acting like a 'dhwka' in the
> >community. In future, we hope that the community will be one, and the
> >'dhwka' will be meaningless and will be removed and discarded. But from
> >your message and from the on-going e-mail fights with the Host Committee,
> >it seems that we are still struggling for the 'joint convention', not to
> >speak for unification. To make it even gloomier, some AANA members
> >are, in fact, openly declaring that they are against these 'joint
> >conventions'. So you tell us, Hazarika, how long you want UAONA to stay?
> >If on the other hand, you can show that UAONA is the culprit that is
> >bringing division to the Assamese Community here and the community will
> >unite and there will be one organization and peace once this UAONA culprit
> >is removed, I can assure you that UAONA members will very happily resolve
> >it (if that is the only reason holding AANA and ASA from forming one
> >organization).
> >
> >
> >
> >Regarding joint conventions also, I need to refresh your memory and
> >clarify people's perception. It is a fact that in 1999, we had the first
> >AANA-ASA joint convention in Houston, and we thank many of you AANA
> >moderates for making it happen by convincing the AANA hard liners for the
> >merits of a joint convention. From 1992 till 1998, while AANA was
> >arranging its separate conventions alone, the rest of the community
> >however, had been arranging successful non-organizational Assamese Get
> >Togethers. In 1992, we had a successful Get Together in Chicago where Dr
> >Bhupen Hazarika was the chief artist. In 1993, we had another successful
> >Assamese Get Together in New Jersey where Khagen and Archana Mahanta were
> >the chief artists. In all these Get Together, AANA was invited (almost
> >with tamwl panor xorai) without any success. In 1996, UAONA members
> >decided to go to AANA Chicago Convention to persuade the AANA
> >members to join the following year�s joint convention proposed from Los
> >Angeles. To refresh your memory, there also the rest of the community
> >failed to persuade AANA to join the joint convention. As a result, we had
> >an Assamese Get Together (without AANA) in Los Angelos in 1997 arranged by
> >California Assamese Community including some veteran AANA members. Artist
> >Jitul Sonowal graced the occasion. Next year we had another Assam 1998 Get
> >Together in St Louis where Ramen and Dipen Barua brothers were the chief
> >guests.
> >
> >
> >
> >So we all were really glad and excited that in 1999, AANA finally decided
> >to join the rest of the community in a 'joint convention'. We again thank
> >you and others for fighting with the AANA hard liners and convincing them
> >of the wisdom to have one convention in the community.
> >
> >
> >
> >Now since then we had five successful joint conventions. Every year, we
> >the UAONA members worked hard behind the scene to make it happen. In last
> >year�s joint convention in St Louis, we, as a community, have achieved
> >something good. The AANA and ASA general bodies have passed a joint
> >resolution where both ASA and AANA would jointly decide and agree on the
> >future venues of the joint conventions every year. This is a great
> >achievement for the unification of the community. We sincerely thank ASA
> >members for initiating this bold step and persuading AANA to adopt it for
> >the sake of the community. We hope that the joint AANA-ASA executive
> >committee will work sincerely to achieve this goal.
> >
> >
> >
> >This year, AANA really snatched the joint convention from the San
> >Francisco community who were eager and willing to hold it. (Incidently we
> >never had any Assamese Convention is San Francisco so far.) Again, the
> >rest of the community gave in to AANA's wishes for the sake of unity.
> >In spite of this year�s hot e-mails, we hope that the Texas Host Committee
> >(which is predominantly AANA members) will be sensitive to ASA's views and
> >will be able to hold a successful joint convention and will continue
> >the tradition to the future.
> >
> >
> >
> >Coming back to your 'unification', my perception is, however, to go for a
> >Federal type of unification where all orgs enjoy their autonomy and
> >freedom, and at the same time united by a joint annual convention. With
> >this process, I also have great faith that we can still achieve
> >'unification' through Oxom Xahityo Xobha and AFNA. AFNA is already
> >opening up to the entire community. Some of us are trying so that Oxom
> >Xahityo Xobha also opens up to the entire community. So far we have
> >received very positive responses from AANA as well as ASA's sides in this
> >respect. Through this e-mail, I would like to appeal to the Oxom Xahitya
> >Xobha President to adopt a resolution this year so that all ASA members
> >become automatic Oxom Xahitya Xobha members (like AANA members). Also our
> >proposal is that the magazine 'Luitor Pora Misisipi' (an organ of Oxom
> >Xahityo Xobha) should be jointly published by both AANA and ASA (keeping
> >the same name) so that the cost can be shared and the magazine can be made
> >available to the entire community members.
> >
> >
> >
> >Let us hope that the newly formed joint AANA-ASA executive committee will
> >discuss among themselves and will work towards these goals in consultation
> >with Oxom Xahityo Xobha. We would appreciate your help and support in
> >these regards.
> >
> >
> >
> >Please let me know if I may be of any help.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >Rajen Barua
> >
> >
> > >From: "Mano Hazarika" >To: "Chan Mahanta" >CC: , , , , , "Sayten Das"
> >, "Rana Gogoi" , "Rabin Mahanta" , "Mano Hazarika" , "Manjula Datta-Barua"
> >, "Kamna Das" , "Dilip & Dil Deka" , "Barada & Kumkum Sarma" >Subject:
> >[Assam] RE: Unification >Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:05:39 -0500 > >
> >>Mahanta: >First, I wished there was one organization. Second. I would
> >like to see >joint conventions continued in future that was started
> >successfully in >Houston in 1999. I have heard from many people that they
> >like these joint >conventions and see it continued. (A further step was
> >taken in Saint Louis >where representative from both ASA and AANA laid
> >down the grown works for >future convention site selection. I have strong
> >faith that the executives of >these organizations can work together to
> >provide leadership. They can work >out to publish one directory in future
> >like in 1999 convention in Houston >jointly by ASA and AANA and
> >investigate if feasible to do other projects >together to reduce cost.
> >Also, start other efforts - for example, nomination >of Kedar Bhuyan to
> >AFNA's board of directors to serve 2000-2002 term). > >I have respect to
> >your talent, intelligent and also dedication to AssamNet. >I was out of
> >town this weekend to attend a meeting. I am sorry for the delay >in
> >replying to you. > >Since you were connected with the past unification
> >efforts, I presumed you >knew what was the result of the past efforts.
> >For the benefit of the >netters, I want to give a very brief history of
> >unification efforts in the >past. An effort was made in 90's by forming
> >an IC (integration committee) >consisting of representatives from both
> >ASA and AANA. Among others, Rajen >Barua, Satyen Das and Ashwini
> >Choudhury were members of this committee. The >committee sent out a
> >questionnaire to Assamese residents in North America by >mail and got
> >their responses on the unification issue. Subsequently, there >was a
> >meeting in 1991 in Philadelphia where both ASA and AANA (AANA was >going
> >to have their convention in 1991 in Washington, but changed the venue >to
> >come to Philadelphia for this) members attended, but it ended almost in a
> >>fistfight. Otherwise that would have been the first successful joint
> >>convention instead of the one in Houston in 1999. And that gave birth to
> >>another organization called UAONA. > >Even after 5 successful joint
> >conventions, UAONA still exists. Mahanta: >since you are one of the
> >persons involved in the creation of UAONA, for the >benefit of the
> >community, can you please explain why UAONA still exists? Do >you like to
> >share some of your success/frustration/wisdom? > >Now, another poll is
> >active for unification. I am worried that it could end >up adding another
> >organization much like UAONA . I am also worried that >this may impact
> >the next joint convention. People come to convention to have >fun.
> >Mahanta: My anticipation was for you to help diffuse the situation by
> >>sharing your wisdom much like Rajen Barua from your past experience for
> >>unification. I also presumed, Ramgopal Sarangapani, who was strong
> >proponent >of plebiscite, was aware of the problems encountered in
> >Philadelphia as >Rajen Barua was trying to share his wisdom through the
> >Assamnet as reply to >Ramgopal. The other note on unification I sent was
> >meant for Ramgopal and >not to Mala; Mala was supposed to be in cc, but I
> >messed up by putting her >in as to also along with Ramgopal. > >I do
> >share the philosophy of unification. But, do you want to achieve this >by
> >hurting some people? Do we not need goodwill from all? My opinion, the
> >>first priority is to continue these joint conventions and bring an
> >>atmosphere to respect and to trust each other. This is taking time and
> >will >take more time. This net is full of intelligent people. This is an
> >appeal to >the netters and community not to force the unification, let it
> >come >naturally. > >Mano Hazarika > > >
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