The news item, that began this discussion, talks of a car rally to promote trade through a road to ASEAN countries.
How quickly it degenerates into a crying match cannot be demonstrative of requirement of any intellectual capability or professional experience or the designs of the evil Indians. --- "Roy, Santanu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dilip-da: > I am astonished that someone with your intellectual > ability and professional experience in large > organizations should say this. It is a fundamental > fact of social institutions that extremely well > meaning people can, as a collectivity, function in > the most disastrous manner. A system is much more > than the sum of best intentions of the people it is > composed of. Even a marriage of two great persons or > a family of affectionate parents and children attain > states of intolerable suffocation and mutual hurt - > not because of the lack of best intentions - but > because of the way in which their interaction has > taken place over time - the role of chance events, > the role of external factors - small, little things > that don't amount to anything in themselves, but > that together acquire a monstrosity over time - so > that nothing but abandoning ship and starting on a > fresh slate appears to be the way to go. > > Santanu. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of > Dilip/Dil Deka > Sent: Fri 10/1/2004 12:23 PM > To: Chan Mahanta; Anjan K. Nath; ASSAMNETCOLORADO > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Assam] Car Rally from Guwahati Is Not > for Fun Alone > > > I am surprised at this talk that is delirious and > single track minded. > > If as a person ABV meant well, Dr. Singh means > well, and so many other leaders in Delhi mean well, > then who is left who does not mean well? You will > say it is the system, but the system is made up of > people like these. > > If you don't respect others, others don't respect > you- it is as simple as that. Do you think ABV had > some ethnic hatred towards the Assamese people when > he used the term "disloyal", if he used that term at > all? There were twenty odd other states about whom > he could use the term but he didn't have to. When > will you start looking at the world without the bias > and hatred towards other Indians? Whether Assam is > independent, autonomous, or stays as a state in > India, Assam will have to learn to live with India. > Dilip > > Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anjan: > > I know about Saikia, even though I don't know him > or what he is all about. > > > At any event that is beside the point. > > It is not WHAT an individual politician thinks of > Assam or views the NE's angst as. I won't have any > trouble believing that ABV means well. But that > means NOTHING. It has nothing to do with individual > Indians' view of Assam or Nagaland or Mizoram, or > the Bodos or the Karbis. > > What DOES matter however, is what, as a nation > that is known as India,has COLLECTIVELY done to our > peoples, and will CONTINUE to do. > > It is about positive change. It is about believing > in democracy in all its many > uncomfortable 'avatars', it is in believing in the > need for making the institutions of democracy WORK, > it is about devolution of powers to the people, it > is about learning to accept dissent, it is about > RESPECTING everyone, regardless of their economic > status, it is about RESPECTING people and their > cultures, even if they are NOT something you grew up > with, it is about LETTING PEOPLEs BE as agreed to in > a FEDERAL democratic state as promised, at time of > independence, It is ALL about all of the above and > more, that the Indian state has failed to live up > to. > > So I find the anecdotes of individuals' goodwill > towards the people of Assam or the other contiguous > states, as PROOF of Indian goodness and the NE's > "disloyalty" ( as ABV told Bhuban Barooah kokaideu > in London) patently ridiculous. > > c > > > c > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Chan Mahanta <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: Dilip/Dil Deka <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ; ASSAMNETCOLORADO <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 6:54 AM > > Subject: Re: [Assam] Car Rally from Guwahati Is > Not for Fun Alone > > > >It looks like Guwahati and Assam were on > Vajpayee's mind even when he was >travelling abroad > and NDA govt. was serious about opening the land > route to the >east through Assam. > > > > > > > Tonight I am going to rejoice at Assam's being > in the forefront of Vajpayee's mind, EVEN while > traveling abroad. And lecture all those who complain > of being in the receiving end of 'step-motherly' > treatment by the Center and their 'khai-paat-folaa' > attitudes. > > > > Come on Dilip :-) :-) :-) :-)! > > > > > > > At 3:31 PM -0700 9/30/04, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote: > > > From TOI. > > > It looks like Guwahati and Assam were on > Vajpayee's mind even when he was travelling abroad > and NDA govt. was serious about opening the land > route to the east through Assam. > > > Dilip > > > > =========================================================== > > > > > > ASEAN for Guwahati to Indonesia car rally > <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/images/spacer.gif> > > timesofindia.indi/49F7D071.gif<http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/images/toi/clipping.gif> > > > <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/images/spacer.gif> > > ANI > <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/images/spacer.gif> > [ THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 2004 01:48:53 PM ] > > <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/images/spacer.gif> > > > GUWAHATI/ NEW DELHI: The Ministry of External > Affairs (MEA), the Confederation of Indian Industry > (CII) and the ASEAN Secretariat (Indonesia) are > jointly organising a car rally from November 22 to > December 11 to promote trade between the ten ASEAN > nations. > > > > > === message truncated === _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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