> Groups that have identified opportunities have moved forward with openness and have benefited - guess how many Assamese young boys and girls would be there in Bangalore?.
*** I would love to see the number of people from Assam or from the entire NE region, who have migrated out. And what percentage of the total population it constitutes.
*** Similarly I would like to see those from outside in Assam, and what percentage of the total population it constitutes. And I don't include those whose ancestors came to Assam generations ago, but have assimilated with the local population and culture, or accepted it as its own---as outsiders.
*** Finally, I would dearly love to see the percentage of people who came from the outside., and control Assam's and the NE's economy.
The Indian govt. is very good in compiling statistics, and our intellectuals are always demanding statistical verification of even of self-evident truths--before they would accept an argument. Will anyone provide that?
At 8:15 PM -0800 12/20/04, Rajib Das wrote:
Trust you to bring your spin to the table somehow :-)
But it all boils down to one thing: There is no sense of one nation. Each different entity is out to protect its own turf, in whatever way it is possible. Compound the problem with an absence of a functioning state machinery that can resolve such issues fairly and timely.
My experience is that there is indeed a sense of one nation amongst vast sections of people cutting across regions and communities. In an earlier generation when opportunities were few, people protected their turfs resulting in continually diminishing returns. Groups that have identified opportunities have moved forward with openness and have benefited - guess how many Assamese young boys and girls would be there in Bangalore?. The others that have continued to use methods of the past languish. In certain parts the state machinery functions relatively better, I must say.
Therein lies the living-in-denial of the pan-Indianist middle class who have it made. They have little to be concerned about and thus can talk of bigger things, like getting respect from the world as a power of some sort, if not a super one, even if it means doing so on the backs of the insecure who they never hesitate to deride so.
My experience of the pan-Indianist middle class - and I am one of them - is different. The best reflection of popular, middle class opinion would be the new Shah Rukh Khan movie Swades where the view point is that a whole lot needs to be done to yet earn the respect of the world. We are in a big mess. But getting out of this mess does not need revolutions. All it needs is for us to apply what we have better. And there is more than ample proof of that working.
You might want to see the movie. It is a tad slow, though.
> >> the whims and fancies of Nitish Kumar, the thenAt 6:10 PM -0800 12/20/04, Rajib Das wrote: >Dear Mr. Chetia, > >All I pointed out was that the AASU was instrumental >in beating up Bihari candidates (from Assamese >newspaper reports). And so was the Shiv Sena. That was >the similarity. > >For the record, I support the view that jobs in the >lower level for federal organizations should go to >local candidates. > >I, however, doubt very much if a Shiv Sena like >approach to things ever helps. > >Rajib > >--- Prasenjit Chetia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >> Dear Mr. Das; >> What AASU did with the jobseekers was a debated >> issue and if you see >> all the underlying truth it was a counter attack to >> a big conspiracy >> which the big bosses of railways did for their kins >> of bihar. Biharis >> were called all over india for interviews, does it >> happen the same way >> in bihar, no it is not. I was doing a project of UTS >> implemented under>> railways minister who >> competed Ram Vilas Paswan. They had setup railway >> division HQs is >> danapur and patna with huge investments which are >> only 2hrs apart in >> distance. These favortism goes on and it is a long >> story. The beating >> up issue is only a pitfall. I don't think , anybody >> could have >> stopped the guys from bihar to appear in guwahati >> where the boys from >> assam or entire NE seeking the same were not called >> for appearing the >> exam with no reason to explain. >> >> I think if you have to save your existence, you have >> to be a little >> bit of "jatiatabadi". All others have that, >> otherwise you will have to >> leave your identity and forget what you were. >> >> >> Prasenjit >> >> >> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:50:09 -0800 (PST), Rajib Das >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Isn't the Assam Sena a rip off of the obviously >> > original one - Shiv Sena of Bal Thackeray? I don't >> > know where the emulation will begin from - but in >> its >> > essence it is a fire and brimstone Hindu >> chauvinist >> > party (and earlier, beating up of the "madrasis" >> in >> > Mumbai). The 2 constant factors in the party >> was/is to >> > use street power to hit at opponents of various >> hues >> > and the party president for life with absolute >> powers >> > for life. The other thing was the constant over >> the >> > ground extortion business that the Shiv Sena >> indulged >> > in. >> > >> > AASU and Shiv Sena have had similarilities in the >> > recent past - the latest one being the beating up >> of >> > Bihari job seekers in Railways. >> > >> > I wonder what the liberals on this board would say >> > about such an idealogy, if indeed Assam Sena has >> such >> > an idealogy. I also wonder whether some of them >> would >> > be ok with such an idealogy in Assam when they are >> on >> > the right side of the spectrum. >> > >> > Finally it is a bit ironic - the original Sena >> (Aka >> > the Shiv Sena) is somewhat on geriatric row what >> with >> > Bal Thackeray being old and ill and their street >> thugs >> > being outnumbered by others in Mumbai because the >> city >> > has moved on. >> > >> > Rajib >> > >> > --- J Kalita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > I am glad that an "Assam Army" is being formed. > > > > Although the name has >> > > the word "Army" in it, it is essentially a >> peaceful >> > > movement trying to >> > > protect the interests of Assam and the >> inhabitants >> > > of Assam. The >> > > interests of Assam and the inhabitants of Assam >> are >> > > in many ways in >> > > odds with the interests of India and the >> > > inhabitants of India, and in >> > > fifty five years of independence from the >> British, >> > > India has not been >> > > able to figure out a formula to balance the two. >> So, >> > > we need some home >> > > grown movement to do so. I would urge the "Assam >> > > Army" (Oxom Xenaa) not >> > > work by emphasizing strikes, bandhs, etc., but >> > > possibly study >> > > successful movements for independence such as
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