Umesh,

Yes, this faith stuff is all over the universities. I really do not
see any value for their presence in convocations. A Religious studies
department should be sufficient. Schools ought to be like secular
governments, where religion is kept separate from their activities.

Just my thoughts

--Ram da

On 6/12/05, umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think all Univs have chaplains of different faiths to say the commencement
> prayer. It depends upon whose trun it is that day. At Harvard's this year
> -it was the turn of the Christian chaplain, maybe next year it be of some
> other faith.
> Every day of the week a different faith's chaplain says the paryers in the
> prayer hall-atleast at Harvard.
>  
> Umesh
> 
> Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> C'da,
> 
> I know news items like these are rather hard to digest:-)
> 
> Honestly, IMHO, I think the whole thing is a bit over the top.
> Hinduism (or any other religion) does not and should not need an MIT
> or the White House to give its blessings.
> 
> I don't think it served any purpose (for Hinduism or MIT) - except
> maybe to cause some discomfort to the Hindu/India bashers:-)
> 
> --Ram
> 
> On 6/12/05, Chan Mahanta wrote:
> > At 6:34 PM -0500 6/11/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> > Here is some interesting bit of news from the halls of MIT. Hope itdoesn't
> > gag those netters who find everything wrong with India orHinduism.
> > 
> > *** That was very timely.
> > 
> > You really delivered a 'jen-kukur-ten-tangwn' wham to these ne'er-do-good
> > anti_indian, hindu-bashers. Making them gag in their own bilious blabber
> is
> > too kind a treatment for them and who deserve much worse.
> > 
> > I mean just look at it, even MIT has, at long last, incorporated Hindu
> > chants
> > in their convocation invocations, thus purifying, in one fell swoop, all
> the
> > sins of commission and omission of the Hindu, something that even a deep
> > steep in the Ganga could not do.
> > 
> > Time for all good Hindus of the world to rise and rejoice and for the
> > hindu-bashers to, at the very least, take a bow, if not offer a
> > 'xastange-pronipaat' with appropriate 'dokkhina' to the Brahman so they
> too
> > can reach Brahman.
> > 
> > C-da :-)
> > 
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> > Nevertheless hope y'all enjoy it.
> > --Ram______________________________________Issue Date:
> > Sunday, June 12, 2005Shanti, shanti rings out in MIT K.P. NAYAR
> Washington,
> > June 11: Five years after a Hindu priest gave the openingprayer on Capitol
> > Hill for the first time in the history of the USCongress, the
> Massachusetts
> > Institute of Technology (MIT) has followedsuit.
> > The 139th commencement ceremony of MIT, which has produced 59 NobelPrize
> > winners in all, began this year with an invocation in Sanskritand English.
> > "May we come together for a common purpose. Common be ourprayer, common
> our
> > goal," prayed Swami Tyagananda.
> > "May the one and the same Divine Reality lead us. May we be grantedclear
> > understanding and the courage to pursue the goals of socialjustice,
> > non-violence, harmony and peace."
> > The swami, who belongs to the Ramakrishna order and heads its
> Bostonbranch,
> > is MIT's Hindu chaplain. He has been in Boston since 1998,assigned to the
> > Vedanta Society there.
> > The presence of Swami Tyagananda apart, India was all over theceremony,
> > reflecting the dominant presence of Indian and IndianAmerican students at
> > prestigious US educational institutions. Amongthe speakers was Barun
> Singh,
> > president of the Graduate StudentCouncil, who saluted the Class of 2005.
> > "We celebrate the hope and promise of times to come in the world weall
> > share. You have demonstrated the ability to reason. Be open
> tounconventional
> > solutions. Keep alive your passion and drive. The worldneeds this, and it
> > waits for you," Singh said.
> > The president of the senior class presented MIT's president,
> SusanHockfield,
> > with a senior class gift - $31,000 this year - for a newstudent lounge.
> The
> > senior class president's name is Rohit Gupta.
> > Senior class gift is a tradition at MIT. Since 1935, they have so
> farraised
> > $138.56 million for MIT.
> > An Indian American from California, Sandhya Sitaraman, a brain
> andcognitive
> > sciences major, was among those graduating this year. Shewas a resident
> > academic adviser for three years at MIT's women's dorm,McCormick Hall.
> > "When I was accepted to MIT, many boys were surprised that a girlcould get
> > accepted to this institution," Sitaraman said. "My fouryears here have
> been
> > absolutely wonderful in terms of helping me growas an individual, and I
> > leave this place with many fond memories."
> > MIT said in a press release that the invocation in Sanskrit andEnglish
> > "reflected the large international crowd's spirit of unity andgoodwill" at
> > the commencement ceremony of this venerable institution.
> > Reflecting the diversity of the occasion, the chaplain said in hisprayer:
> > "May the one and the same Divine Reality who is the Father inheaven of the
> > Christians, Holy One of the Jewish faith, Allah of theMuslims, Buddha of
> the
> > Buddhists, Dao of the Chinese faith, AhuraMazda of the Zoroastrians, The
> > Great Spirit of the Native Americansand Brahman of the Hindus, lead us
> from
> > ignorance to knowledge, fromdarkness to light, from death to immortality."
> > He began his invocation with a quote from Swami Vivekananda thatsuited the
> > occasion: "Education is the manifestation of the perfectionalready within
> > us." He concluded with the chant, shanti, shanti,shanti.
> > The opening prayer at the US Congress by a Hindu priest in 2000 was onthe
> > occasion of then Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's
> > visit.Venkatachalpathi Samuldrala, a priest from the Shiva Vishnu
> > Hindutemple in Parma, Ohio, was brought to Capitol Hill at the
> initiativeof
> > Sherrod Brown, a Congressman from Ohio.
> > During this year's Commencement ceremony, 1,094 MIT students
> > receivedbachelor's degrees, 1,078 received master's degrees, 257
> > gotdoctorates and 12 students were given engineering degrees, accordingto
> an
> > MIT press release.
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