NOW I'M GONNA PULL LIST COP ON YOU!

This is an Asterisk forum.

although . . . I certainly don't mind bashing the BCM . . . and those specs
are pretty embarassing.

But let's get back to Asterisk, shall we?


If you want to know all about BCM, buy me a beer or three. I worked with
those damned things for at least 5 years. I am like a cancer patient--you
become an expert in something that is killing you.

I saw the original BCM prototype way back in '99 in Nortel's Calgary lab. I
still remember asking "you are NOT going to run Windows NT on that, are
you?"

They asked "sure, why not?"

I proceeded to tell them all of the problems they were going to have (which,
incedentally, they did, for the next seven years). "Run it on Linux", I
said.

They got very upset with me, told me Linux was not a serious operating
system, I had no idea what I was talking about and that Windows NT was the
perfect embedded OS. I think I laughed at them. I hope I didn't call them
fools, but that's what I was thinking.

The hate started very early on. 

The BCM is a large part of the reason I left Telus. I foam at the mouth when
I think about it. I get the shakes. I become unreasonable. I should probably
be medicated.

Forutunately, I am a jolly drunk, so ply me with alcohol and I'll tell you
everything I can still remember (the medication is working!).

Now then. NO MORE ABOUT BCM ON THIS LIST for a least a month, please.

Ahhhhhh . . . I feel better already.

:-)

Jim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: April 13, 2007 3:02 PM
> To: doug vega; TAUG
> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] nortel BCM 400
> 
> Just thought I'd share this info:
> 
>       NORTEL BCM400:
>        
>       The chassis comes fully equipped with a Pentium III 
> 700-megahertz (BCM400) or a Pentium Celeron 850-megahertz 
> (BCM200) processor, 256Mb of RAM, a 20 GB hard drive and a 
> 350- watt power supply, all housed in a 19-inch, 
> rack-mountable chassis. The chassis also comes equipped with 
> integrated features like voice, data and management 
> applications working in concert with Microsoft Windows NT 
> Embedded operating system. 
> 
>       The BCM has more than 150 powerful software 
> applications preinstalled. Some applications work immediately 
> after the system is installed, while others can be enabled 
> and downloaded locally or remotely for implementation as 
> business requirements evolve. 
> 
> 
>       Features:
> 
> 
>       *       Multimedia Call Center
>       *       Voice Messaging
>       *       Message networking
>       *       Unified Messaging
>       *       Professional Call Center and Reporting
>       *       Custom Call Routing (CCR)
>       *       Attendant Console
>       *       Fax Messaging
>       *       Personal Call Manager (PCM)
>       *       Unified Manager
>       *       IP phone support
>       *       Built in Voice Mail (requires activation)
>       *       Support for Norstar Fiber Modules
>       *       Intel Pentium III 700 MHz (BCM400) or a Pentium 
> Celeron 850MHz (BCM200), CPU
>       *       256 MB SDRAM
>       *       20 GB hard drive
>       *       2 10/100 BaseT Ethernet ports (on-board)
>       *       1 V.90 embedded modem (North America units only)
>       *       2 PCI slots (one used by the Media Services 
> Card and one for adding a WAN interface card)
>       *       4 media bays in BCM400, 2 media bays in BCM200
>       *       350 watt power supply (PS)
>       *       Windows NTE 4.0.
> 
>       
> http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model_NT7B10AAED.htm?sid=564D2D
854A66563AA246ACC14ADF4110
>       $5,250 USD + Installation Fee + Consultant/Specialist Fees.
> 
>  
>  
> From what I see above...  Asterisk can do it all.   So $1,000 
> CDN + Installation/Consultant fees = over $4,000 CDN savings. 
>   Not to mention you get among the top of the line specs for 
> a P4 with $1,000 CDN with more than 4 times the ram and 4 
> times the hard disk capacity.
>  
> At the hard core technical level one can certainly debate 
> about the features and stuff between BCM and Asterisk.  But 
> at the small & medium size business level...  from a business 
> perspective...   most of the clients are not really 
> interested in what OS their phone system is on.   For them 
> the bottom line is whether they will be able to make and 
> receive calls.  
>  
> My hands on experience with Nortel BCM's is zero.   But from 
> the feature set above, as an Asterisk enthusiast and 
> specialist - I'd go with Asterisk due to the flexibility, 
> scalability, low cost, support, & good 
> pointers/recommendations from the open source community which 
> I think in my perspective seconds to none -- and at the worst 
> case scenario if the server goes boom, it can be replaced in 
> less than 24 hrs.
>  
> That's my 2 cents :).   Having said that I'm still curious to 
> learn MORE about the BCMs.   Maybe Nortel will give our group 
> a BCM to play with? :).
>  
> Cheers!
> Reza.
>  
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>       From: doug vega <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>       To: [email protected] 
>       Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:57 AM
>       Subject: [on-asterisk] nortel BCM 400
> 
>       I read the Nortel BCM 400 User guide and they claim the 
> OS is a Windows NT 
>       Can anyone confirm this before some one put their foot 
> in their mouth when comparing Nortel and Asterisk with a customer.
>       
>       Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
>               Your Nortel BCM is technically a Linux box :)
>               
>               Assuming this is a Nortel BCM 400 series, its 
> an Intel box with Linux on it. 
>               
>               
> 
> 
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