Hey Jim! Why am I not surprised :). Glad you didn't have to go to a shrink to feel better :).
Now I'm gonna pull shrink doctor on ya :). I understand the 3 letter acronym starting with B and ending with M, having a C in the middle has caused you a fair bit of aggravation that in the midst of all the outrage and anger you missed one paragraph :). I quote myself: " My hands on experience with Nortel BCM's is zero. But from he feature set above, as an Asterisk enthusiast and specialist - I'd go with Asterisk due to the flexibility, scalability, low cost, support, & good pointers/recommendations from the open source community which I think in my perspective seconds to none -- and at the worst case scenario if the server goes boom, it can be replaced in less than 24 hrs. " So this topic was about Asterisk too :). Without a point of reference, its hard to compare Asterisk with something else. As we exchange this e-mail, some decision makers are actively trying to decide which way to go... as in "To Asterisk, or not to Asterisk". I certainly hope the prospects make an informed wise decision and has at least read your post! Since you made the point pretty clear, I'm not going to indulge on a ### chat with ya... But heck I'm buying you beer anyway since you've saved me from the ### fever :) Cheers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Van Meggelen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'doug vega'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'TAUG'" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:51 PM Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] nortel BCM 400 > NOW I'M GONNA PULL LIST COP ON YOU! > > This is an Asterisk forum. > > although . . . I certainly don't mind bashing the BCM . . . and those specs > are pretty embarassing. > > But let's get back to Asterisk, shall we? > > > If you want to know all about BCM, buy me a beer or three. I worked with > those damned things for at least 5 years. I am like a cancer patient--you > become an expert in something that is killing you. > > I saw the original BCM prototype way back in '99 in Nortel's Calgary lab. I > still remember asking "you are NOT going to run Windows NT on that, are > you?" > > They asked "sure, why not?" > > I proceeded to tell them all of the problems they were going to have (which, > incedentally, they did, for the next seven years). "Run it on Linux", I > said. > > They got very upset with me, told me Linux was not a serious operating > system, I had no idea what I was talking about and that Windows NT was the > perfect embedded OS. I think I laughed at them. I hope I didn't call them > fools, but that's what I was thinking. > > The hate started very early on. > > The BCM is a large part of the reason I left Telus. I foam at the mouth when > I think about it. I get the shakes. I become unreasonable. I should probably > be medicated. > > Forutunately, I am a jolly drunk, so ply me with alcohol and I'll tell you > everything I can still remember (the medication is working!). > > Now then. NO MORE ABOUT BCM ON THIS LIST for a least a month, please. > > Ahhhhhh . . . I feel better already. > > :-) > > Jim > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: April 13, 2007 3:02 PM >> To: doug vega; TAUG >> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] nortel BCM 400 >> >> Just thought I'd share this info: >> >> NORTEL BCM400: >> >> The chassis comes fully equipped with a Pentium III >> 700-megahertz (BCM400) or a Pentium Celeron 850-megahertz >> (BCM200) processor, 256Mb of RAM, a 20 GB hard drive and a >> 350- watt power supply, all housed in a 19-inch, >> rack-mountable chassis. The chassis also comes equipped with >> integrated features like voice, data and management >> applications working in concert with Microsoft Windows NT >> Embedded operating system. >> >> The BCM has more than 150 powerful software >> applications preinstalled. Some applications work immediately >> after the system is installed, while others can be enabled >> and downloaded locally or remotely for implementation as >> business requirements evolve. >> >> >> Features: >> >> >> * Multimedia Call Center >> * Voice Messaging >> * Message networking >> * Unified Messaging >> * Professional Call Center and Reporting >> * Custom Call Routing (CCR) >> * Attendant Console >> * Fax Messaging >> * Personal Call Manager (PCM) >> * Unified Manager >> * IP phone support >> * Built in Voice Mail (requires activation) >> * Support for Norstar Fiber Modules >> * Intel Pentium III 700 MHz (BCM400) or a Pentium >> Celeron 850MHz (BCM200), CPU >> * 256 MB SDRAM >> * 20 GB hard drive >> * 2 10/100 BaseT Ethernet ports (on-board) >> * 1 V.90 embedded modem (North America units only) >> * 2 PCI slots (one used by the Media Services >> Card and one for adding a WAN interface card) >> * 4 media bays in BCM400, 2 media bays in BCM200 >> * 350 watt power supply (PS) >> * Windows NTE 4.0. >> >> >> http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model_NT7B10AAED.htm?sid=564D2D > 854A66563AA246ACC14ADF4110 >> $5,250 USD + Installation Fee + Consultant/Specialist Fees. >> >> >> >> From what I see above... Asterisk can do it all. So $1,000 >> CDN + Installation/Consultant fees = over $4,000 CDN savings. >> Not to mention you get among the top of the line specs for >> a P4 with $1,000 CDN with more than 4 times the ram and 4 >> times the hard disk capacity. >> >> At the hard core technical level one can certainly debate >> about the features and stuff between BCM and Asterisk. But >> at the small & medium size business level... from a business >> perspective... most of the clients are not really >> interested in what OS their phone system is on. For them >> the bottom line is whether they will be able to make and >> receive calls. >> >> My hands on experience with Nortel BCM's is zero. But from >> the feature set above, as an Asterisk enthusiast and >> specialist - I'd go with Asterisk due to the flexibility, >> scalability, low cost, support, & good >> pointers/recommendations from the open source community which >> I think in my perspective seconds to none -- and at the worst >> case scenario if the server goes boom, it can be replaced in >> less than 24 hrs. >> >> That's my 2 cents :). Having said that I'm still curious to >> learn MORE about the BCMs. Maybe Nortel will give our group >> a BCM to play with? :). >> >> Cheers! >> Reza. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: doug vega <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:57 AM >> Subject: [on-asterisk] nortel BCM 400 >> >> I read the Nortel BCM 400 User guide and they claim the >> OS is a Windows NT >> Can anyone confirm this before some one put their foot >> in their mouth when comparing Nortel and Asterisk with a customer. >> >> Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Your Nortel BCM is technically a Linux box :) >> >> Assuming this is a Nortel BCM 400 series, its >> an Intel box with Linux on it. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release >> Date: 12/04/2007 7:58 PM >> >> >> > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 12/04/2007 > 7:58 PM > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
