> -----Original Message----- > From: Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: April 13, 2007 10:00 PM > To: Jim Van Meggelen; 'TAUG' > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] nortel BCM 400 > > Hey Jim! > > Why am I not surprised :). Glad you didn't have to go to a > shrink to feel better :). > > Now I'm gonna pull shrink doctor on ya :). I understand the > 3 letter acronym starting with B and ending with M, having a > C in the middle has caused you a fair bit of aggravation that > in the midst of all the outrage and anger you missed one paragraph :).
I know that you snuck an Asterisk in there. Were it not for that, I probably would've completely snapped (or, that has happened already, I just don't know it). > I quote myself: " My hands on experience with Nortel BCM's THERE'S THAT WORD AGAIN! GAAAAAHHHH! > is zero. But from he feature set above, as an Asterisk > enthusiast and specialist - I'd go with Asterisk due to the > flexibility, scalability, low cost, support, & good > pointers/recommendations from the open source community which > I think in my perspective seconds to none -- and at the worst > case scenario if the server goes boom, it can be replaced in > less than 24 hrs. " > > So this topic was about Asterisk too :). Without a point of > reference, its hard to compare Asterisk with something else. > As we exchange this e-mail, some decision makers are actively > trying to decide which way to go... as in "To Asterisk, or > not to Asterisk". I certainly hope the prospects make an > informed wise decision and has at least read your post! > > Since you made the point pretty clear, I'm not going to > indulge on a ### chat with ya... But heck I'm buying you > beer anyway since you've saved me from the ### fever :) That sounds like a plan! Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Van Meggelen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >; "'doug vega'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >; "'TAUG'" > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:51 PM > Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] nortel BCM 400 > > > > NOW I'M GONNA PULL LIST COP ON YOU! > > > > This is an Asterisk forum. > > > > although . . . I certainly don't mind bashing the BCM . . . > and those specs > > are pretty embarassing. > > > > But let's get back to Asterisk, shall we? > > > > > > If you want to know all about BCM, buy me a beer or three. > I worked with > > those damned things for at least 5 years. I am like a > cancer patient--you > > become an expert in something that is killing you. > > > > I saw the original BCM prototype way back in '99 in > Nortel's Calgary lab. I > > still remember asking "you are NOT going to run Windows NT > on that, are > > you?" > > > > They asked "sure, why not?" > > > > I proceeded to tell them all of the problems they were > going to have (which, > > incedentally, they did, for the next seven years). "Run it > on Linux", I > > said. > > > > They got very upset with me, told me Linux was not a > serious operating > > system, I had no idea what I was talking about and that > Windows NT was the > > perfect embedded OS. I think I laughed at them. I hope I > didn't call them > > fools, but that's what I was thinking. > > > > The hate started very early on. > > > > The BCM is a large part of the reason I left Telus. I foam > at the mouth when > > I think about it. I get the shakes. I become unreasonable. > I should probably > > be medicated. > > > > Forutunately, I am a jolly drunk, so ply me with alcohol > and I'll tell you > > everything I can still remember (the medication is working!). > > > > Now then. NO MORE ABOUT BCM ON THIS LIST for a least a > month, please. > > > > Ahhhhhh . . . I feel better already. > > > > :-) > > > > Jim > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: April 13, 2007 3:02 PM > >> To: doug vega; TAUG > >> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] nortel BCM 400 > >> > >> Just thought I'd share this info: > >> > >> NORTEL BCM400: > >> > >> The chassis comes fully equipped with a Pentium III > >> 700-megahertz (BCM400) or a Pentium Celeron 850-megahertz > >> (BCM200) processor, 256Mb of RAM, a 20 GB hard drive and a > >> 350- watt power supply, all housed in a 19-inch, > >> rack-mountable chassis. The chassis also comes equipped with > >> integrated features like voice, data and management > >> applications working in concert with Microsoft Windows NT > >> Embedded operating system. > >> > >> The BCM has more than 150 powerful software > >> applications preinstalled. Some applications work immediately > >> after the system is installed, while others can be enabled > >> and downloaded locally or remotely for implementation as > >> business requirements evolve. > >> > >> > >> Features: > >> > >> > >> * Multimedia Call Center > >> * Voice Messaging > >> * Message networking > >> * Unified Messaging > >> * Professional Call Center and Reporting > >> * Custom Call Routing (CCR) > >> * Attendant Console > >> * Fax Messaging > >> * Personal Call Manager (PCM) > >> * Unified Manager > >> * IP phone support > >> * Built in Voice Mail (requires activation) > >> * Support for Norstar Fiber Modules > >> * Intel Pentium III 700 MHz (BCM400) or a Pentium > >> Celeron 850MHz (BCM200), CPU > >> * 256 MB SDRAM > >> * 20 GB hard drive > >> * 2 10/100 BaseT Ethernet ports (on-board) > >> * 1 V.90 embedded modem (North America units only) > >> * 2 PCI slots (one used by the Media Services > >> Card and one for adding a WAN interface card) > >> * 4 media bays in BCM400, 2 media bays in BCM200 > >> * 350 watt power supply (PS) > >> * Windows NTE 4.0. > >> > >> > >> > http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model_NT7B10AAED.htm?sid=564D2D > <http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model_NT7B10AAED.htm?sid=564D2D> > > 854A66563AA246ACC14ADF4110 > >> $5,250 USD + Installation Fee + Consultant/Specialist Fees. > >> > >> > >> > >> From what I see above... Asterisk can do it all. So $1,000 > >> CDN + Installation/Consultant fees = over $4,000 CDN savings. > >> Not to mention you get among the top of the line specs for > >> a P4 with $1,000 CDN with more than 4 times the ram and 4 > >> times the hard disk capacity. > >> > >> At the hard core technical level one can certainly debate > >> about the features and stuff between BCM and Asterisk. But > >> at the small & medium size business level... from a business > >> perspective... most of the clients are not really > >> interested in what OS their phone system is on. For them > >> the bottom line is whether they will be able to make and > >> receive calls. > >> > >> My hands on experience with Nortel BCM's is zero. But from > >> the feature set above, as an Asterisk enthusiast and > >> specialist - I'd go with Asterisk due to the flexibility, > >> scalability, low cost, support, & good > >> pointers/recommendations from the open source community which > >> I think in my perspective seconds to none -- and at the worst > >> case scenario if the server goes boom, it can be replaced in > >> less than 24 hrs. > >> > >> That's my 2 cents :). Having said that I'm still curious to > >> learn MORE about the BCMs. Maybe Nortel will give our group > >> a BCM to play with? :). > >> > >> Cheers! > >> Reza. > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> From: doug vega <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:57 AM > >> Subject: [on-asterisk] nortel BCM 400 > >> > >> I read the Nortel BCM 400 User guide and they claim the > >> OS is a Windows NT > >> Can anyone confirm this before some one put their foot > >> in their mouth when comparing Nortel and Asterisk with a customer. > >> > >> Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > >> Your Nortel BCM is technically a Linux box :) > >> > >> Assuming this is a Nortel BCM 400 series, its > >> an Intel box with Linux on it. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release > >> Date: 12/04/2007 7:58 PM > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release > Date: 12/04/2007 > > 7:58 PM > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release > Date: 12/04/2007 7:58 PM > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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