I completely agree, this is not new or surprising. I'll even admit to screwing 
around with Green / Red boxes, chat rooms, etc... in my younger years (crap, 
that's the second time I've referred to myself as getting old this week).
 
I just don't agree with the compliance or profiting from it by big businesses.

I know it seems utopian, but maybe it's because I'm getting old (crap, that's 
three).

Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Mullis [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: January-29-10 12:21 PM
To: Leo
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Long distance fraud... $24,000+

I dont know why this is such a new issue to most people, phreakers have been 
doing this for over a 2 decades now.

I know it sounds harsh but.. .dont open your phone system up with things like 
password protected dialtone access or even worse dialing from mailboxes, 
eventually someone is going to find the number and brute force it.

Even sip registrations get hammered to hell with people trying to brute force, 
people really need to start taking a better look at there logs and putting in 
watchdogs to prevent such abuse :p

Phil.


Leo wrote:
> The problem here is... everyone blames the telco why was the phone 
> system insecure to begin with?
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Ian Darwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>   
>>> Should AllStream make a profit on fraud? Should they even get paid 
>>> for fraud? It's not in their best interest to stop it.
>>>       
>> It is: if they bankrupt their customers by failing to detect this 
>> sort of thing they may get paid pennies on the dollar.
>>
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