Phil McKerracher wrote:
> [Apologies if this is a duplicate, the original seems to have got lost]
> 
> Thanks for all your responses (wow!) and before I address individual
> points let me apologise if I appeared too negative, and make it clear that
> I'm very enthusiastic about astlinux in general, and have already donated
> (and purchased a net4801 etc) and corresponded with Kristian offering
> help.
> 
> Since the original post I've noticed that m0n0wall seems to be configured
> in exactly the way I suggested - with a default IP of 192.168.1.1 - why is
> this not a good idea?
> 

        Here is my take on a default, static IP address.

        DHCP is everywhere.  If your network doesn't run DHCP, it probably 
should, and if you really don't want to use it, you can buy/find/borrow 
some router that has a DHCP server and can give you an IP address for 
devices that you connect behind it.

        Static IP address by default...  What about this:

- Your network already has a 192.168.1.1 (or whatever)
-


>> From: Carla Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> No. Web forums are teh suck. :) But a lot of folks like them, so if you're
>> volunteering to run one for AstLinux, Kristian is the one to talk to...
> 
> I'm volunteering...setting up a BB is trivial (although keeping spam out
> can be a pain), would people here actually use it? I've set one up in the
> past and found the RSS feed from it very useful.
> 

        phpbb/web forums.  This is more of a personal thing than anything else, 
but I HATE web forums.

        If you have problems with a mailing list, it isn't the mailing list's 
fault.  You should improve your e-mail situation.

        I am subscribed to dozens of mailing lists.  I run procmail on my mail 
server to sort them into appropriate IMAP folders.  I can fire up any 
IMAP client on any of my machines (or use SquirrelMail) and be presented 
with ALL of my mailing list messages in one place, with a somewhat 
consistent interface.  Not only that, but all of my other e-mail is here 
as well (obviously).  So, just by checking my e-mail (which I do every 
five minutes :) ) I can keep track of dozens of discussions on a wide 
range of topics.

        Now, what if all of these used something like phpBB?  I would have 25 
logins on 25 different interfaces on servers scattered all over the 
internet.  Even with an RSS feed, keeping track of all of them would be 
a nightmare.  Plus, I would have to check them in addition to my e-mail, 
which I won't do.

        Most of the time, if someone implements a web forum, it is because:

- they don't understand mailing lists
- they don't have access to a server that can host them
- they want to make ad revenue off of the forum by hosting ads on the pages
- they do it because they have to, customer demand (see reasons 1+2), etc

        There are probably some other reasons, but my guess is these are the 
main ones...

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Kristian Kielhofner
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