Hmm that's handy. Oh well. Regards Michael Knill
-----Original Message----- From: Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> Reply-To: AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Date: Monday, 24 April 2017 at 9:46 am To: AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] Qotom Q190G4N-S07 Celeron J1900 Fanless Appliance Michael, Yes, Serial header, but no header pins I could see on my unit, just solder bumps like here (page 3 / 8: note #10) https://doc.astlinux-project.org/_media/userdoc:qotom-q190g4n-s07-motherboard-manual.pdf Lonnie On Apr 23, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Michael Knill <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: > Hi Lonnie > > There is an RS232 Header on the Mother Board. Is that a Serial header? > > Regards > Michael Knill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> > Reply-To: AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Date: Monday, 24 April 2017 at 9:22 am > To: AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] Qotom Q190G4N-S07 Celeron J1900 Fanless > Appliance > > Hi Michael, > > My Qotom Q190G4N-S07 is running 24/7 in my lab, if there is anything unusual > I'll report back here. > > I'm thinking for production simply ignore the VGA console and use SSH or > HTTPS/CLI tab for shell access. Have a VGA monitor/keyboard in the lab for > initial setup. > > If you really need non-network console access, years ago I purchased a ... > > KVM Console to USB 2.0 Portable Laptop Crash Cart Adapter > https://www.amazon.com//dp/B002CLKFTQ/ > > too expensive to recommend, but I have not found any competing products, and > allows me to create PNG snapshots of the VGA screen for the documentation. > Sadly the Mac OS software does not generate a <DEL> so I also have to also > use a real keyboard to gain access to the BIOS. :-( It is kind of quirky, > but works. > > The internal Qotom Q1900G4 board has a serial option, but there is no header > to attach a cable. > > BTW, it appears Qotom offers quality RAM and mSATA SSD's, so ordering a > pre-populated unit with 2 GB RAM and 16-32 GB mSATA SSD might be a good > option for multiple production units. > > While the 4 core, 2.0 GHz Intel J1900 provides a good sweet-spot (and > headroom) for typical AstLinux solutions, I'm not sure how long the J1900's > will be available from Intel, at lease two more years, longer if Qotom has a > stockpile. The Qotom Q1900G4 board is relatively new, so I hope they can > build these for years to come. > > Lonnie > > > On Apr 23, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Michael Knill > <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: > >> Hi Lonnie >> >> It looks great and I am looking forward to finding out how reliable it is. >> Not having a serial port is very annoying though. Can you think of any >> options for a console other than KVM? >> I guess you can buy some cheap baby 7” monitors you can cart around with you. >> >> Regards >> Michael Knill >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> >> Reply-To: AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Date: Sunday, 23 April 2017 at 10:30 pm >> To: AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Subject: [Astlinux-users] Qotom Q190G4N-S07 Celeron J1900 Fanless Appliance >> >> A newly released hardware description and configuration has been added to >> the AstLinux documentation: >> >> Qotom Q190G4N-S07 Celeron J1900 Fanless Appliance >> https://doc.astlinux-project.org/userdoc:board_qotom_q190g4n-s07 >> >> I personally purchased a barebone Q190G4N-S07 via Amazon direct from Qotom >> in Hong Kong: >> >> Barebone 4 Lan J1900 Router Qotom-Q190G4N-S07 ... >> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N645UJB/ >> >> Or also available worldwide via AliExpress: >> >> NEW Mini pc X86 4*Lan Qotom-Q190G4N with celeron J1900 quad core 4*usb VGA >> firewall Multi-function router >> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NEW-Mini-pc-X86-4-Lan-Qotom-Q190G4N-with-celeron-J1900-quad-core-4-usb-VGA/32785346279.html >> >> The PC Engines APU2 runs AstLinux quite well, and offers a good comparison >> with this Qotom. The Qotom and PC Engines APU2 are approximately the same >> price for me ... >> >> Qotom-Q190G4N-S07 = $ 117.00 + $ 33.64 shipping (USD) >> (2 GB RAM $ 15-20 and mSATA SSD extra) >> >> APU2c2 + case + power = $ 120.40 + $ 30.50 shipping (USD) >> (mSATA SSD extra) >> >> The Q190G4N-S07 is about 2x the performance of the APU2, essentially same >> power consumption, a first-class machined aluminum black case (idles 15 >> deg.C cooler) vs. the APU2 sheet metal case, one extra NIC. Additionally, >> the Qotom does not require any tedious assembly, simply add 4 rubber feet, >> RAM and mSATA SSD by removing 4 screws. >> >> The APU2 has AES-NI support and soldered 2 GB RAM (pro and con since it is >> not changeable), has a serial port and a piezo buzzer, the Qotom has >> neither. The Qotom has a VGA console port. >> >> Physically the Qotom occupies only 75 % of the table area vs. the APU2, but >> is quite heavy at 830 grams (1.8 lbs) per it's substantial aluminum case. >> >> I placed my order on a Friday, it shipped on the following Monday and I >> signed for the package Wednesday noon. Quite amazing ! >> >> Note: Shipped via DHL which required a signature on delivery. >> >> Total system power at idle is only 5 Watts without a VGA connection. The >> case is only barely warm to the touch. The CPU temperature is around 38-40 >> deg.C at room temperature and idle. >> >> I performed a standard iperf test (client-iperf -> LAN-qotom-WAN -> >> server-iperf), the qotom will route at Gb line speed (912 Mbps) at 90% idle >> (via top). >> >> The OpenVPN test took 37.6 seconds, with a measured maximum OpenVPN >> throughput of 125 Mbps. >> -- >> openvpn --genkey --secret /tmp/secret >> time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 >> --cipher aes-256-cbc >> -- >> >> The BIOS defaults to first boot off a USB drive, so install an mSATA SSD, >> boot with a USB flash drive containing the bootable AstLinux Install ISO - >> Generic x86-64bit (Video Console), then interacting via the VGA console >> install to the mSATA SSD. >> >> Clearly there is no one best AstLinux hardware solution, but in my limited >> testing, the Qotom Q190G4N-S07 is a great fit for AstLinux. >> >> The Qotom Q190G4N-S07 has run solidly for a few days, further updates as >> needed. >> >> Lonnie >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Astlinux-users mailing list >> Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users >> >> Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to >> pay...@krisk.org. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Astlinux-users mailing list >> Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users >> >> Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to >> pay...@krisk.org. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Astlinux-users mailing list > Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users > > Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to > pay...@krisk.org. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Astlinux-users mailing list > Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users > > Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to > pay...@krisk.org. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pay...@krisk.org. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pay...@krisk.org.
