On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Gale Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> | From [email protected]
> | Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:00:26 +0100 (CET)
> | Subject: [Audacity-manual] Effect_Menu
>> I've reworked the http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Effect_Menu/fr
>> page and got a couple thought from here:
>>
>> In the intro, it's write: "You can download many free plug-ins for Audacity
>> from http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/plugins and the links thereon."
>> -> is free is to take like "free as a beer" or "free as a speech"?
>
> For LADSPA and Nyquist it is usually free in price and open in licensing
> (anyone can change the plug-in as they wish if they do not change the
> licence).
>
> VST plug-ins can be free in price (but often not open licensed) or
> more often are commercial plug-ins that have to be purchased beyond
> a trial period.
>
>
>> "Normalize...
>> Use the Normalize effect to set the maximum amplitude of a track,
>> equalize the amplitudes of the left and right channels of a stereo track and
>> optionally remove any DC offset from the track. "
>> -> What "DC offset" is? Maybe an external link to wikipedia (or other) would 
>> be good and enough?
>> -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_offset
>
> I've added a Glossary link for DC Offset and linked to it in the Normalize
> entry in Effect Menu:
> http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Effect_Menu#normalize .
>
> I don't think it needs the link on the Normalize page itself.
>
>
>> In the VST part, I think it could be great to have something about "Why there
>> is no VST support on Linux" or at least (if it's too much subject to endless
>> discussions, something like "Note: there is (currently) no VST support for 
>> Linux"
>
> I think that is pushing a bit beyond the scope of a reference page.
>
> I might be prepared to add "or with Linux under WINE" with a link
> to WINE ( http://www.winehq.org/ ) but that would be subject
> to Steve's or Bruno's view on how likely such support would work.

For anyone that really wants to run VST effects in Audacity on a Linux
PC, I would recommend running Windows as a virtual machine. I've tried
this using Windows XP in Virtualbox on both Ubuntu and Debian.
Although the performance of Audacity is a bit sluggish in a virtual
machine I have found it good enough to be usable. VST support appears
to be the same in virtualised XP as it is on a real XP machine.

The Windows version of Audacity will work in Wine, though there can be
some theme colour problems (parts of the interface showing in the
wrong colours). Some VST plug-ins may work, but I've not tried that
myself. Searching Google suggests that there are likely to be
compatibility problems with some VST effects.

VST plug-ins that require a dongle do not work.

There are a variety of methods of running VSTs in Linux, including
using Wineasio http://sourceforge.net/projects/wineasio/ or using
Jackd to connect a native Linux build of Audacity to a Windows VST
host (Jack is not currently supported by Wine so module-jack-source
and module-jack-sink are required). Running VSTs in Linux is not
without complications and in my opinion is well beyond the scope of
the Audacity manual.

My personal recommendation for Linux users would be to stick to LADSPA
and Nyquist effects. If Jackd is used it is possible to route inputs
and outputs in such a way as to provide real time effects. Hopefully
LV2 and DSSI plug-ins will be supported at some time in the future.

Steve


>
>
>> By personal curiosity, I'm just wondering why VAMP plug-ins support
>> has been removed? Are they definitely abandoned?
>
> VAMP support is still available but I moved it to the Analyze menu
> a long time ago because that is where VAMP plug-ins should appear:
> http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Analyze_Menu#vamp .
>
>
>> PS: I'm wondering if it's useful to forward this kind of improvement to
>> -quality, should I?
>
> Not the above suggestions, because they only concern the Manual.
>
> Had VAMP support actually been dropped or you found a bug in it
> then either the -quality list or [email protected] would
> be OK.  Please ask Vaughan if you want to be on the -quality list.
>
> Thanks for all your work on translations, Olivier and Christian.
>
>
>
>
>
> Gale
>
>
>
>> ************************
>> (FR part now:)
>>
>> Christian:
>> Je te fais part de certaines réflexions que j'ai eu en bossant sur cette 
>> page avec Audacity ouvert a coté,
>> (Ceci dit, je me contente de coller a l'interface graphique)
>>
>> La plupart des effets pré-intégrés possèdent un bouton "Pré-visualisation"
>> -> le terme consacré dans les autres logiciels semble être "Aperçu", qu'en 
>> penses-tu? De plus, aperçu est moins lourd a l'affichage/lecture.
>> J'ai vu que dans l'onglet Lecture des Preferences, il est inscrit 
>> "pré-lecture", ca me semble judicieux ici aussi, de changer pour "aperçu" si 
>> tu es d'accord.
>>
>> L'effet Normaliser possède 6 petits points (mais ca, je crois bien l'avoir 
>> déjà dit, je radote :) )
>>
>> Il manque 3 petits points a Effet > tronquer le silence
>>
>> Dans menu > Pistes > Ajouter nouvelle..., on devrait avoir "Piste audio" et 
>> non "Piste mono" pour coller a la version EN du logiciel
>>
>> Voilou pour mes petites contributions du soir :)
>>
>> (End of FR part)
>> *************************
>>
>>
>> Once again, that's very good to see a free software improving as quick as 
>> Audacity, what's Audacity's team secret?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Olivier
>
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