On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Thomas De Rocker <[email protected]
> wrote:
> Hi Paul
>
> First of all: the Dutch translations are completed on Transifex! 😊
>
> Second: my username on Transifex is RockyTDR, and I made the comment.
>
> What I meant is the following. Transifex "recognizes" html and some other
> tags. It allows translators to copy e.g. "*<a href...*" as some kind of
> "balloon".
>
> The problem is that Transifex treats some characters, or the order of some
> characters (*1%F* for example) as a "balloon". Translators are obliged to
> use that same "balloon" in their translations. If not, it returns an error.
>
> This is what I mean (Transifex screenshot):
>
>
> In this case the "F" of "Frequency" is recognized as a tag. This can be
> solved by putting a space between characters, like this: "1% F".
>
> I hope this clears things. If you have any questions, i'd be happy to
> answer them.
>
> Regards
>
Thanks, Thomas,
I think Transifex is being "stupid" then about #, lisp-format and its
software needs an update. Who should we complain to?
Were you compelled to put the spaces in before your upload was accepted?
Yuri C., you too, for Ukrainian?
If so, then maybe we should not rely on Transifex and you should send me
your updates either by email or by pull request at GitHub.
Or I can edit the few strings myself to remove the unnecessary spaces.
By the way, Thomas, I also saw your question about the meaning of
"frequency bounds." That string is part of an effect that cooperates with
the spectral selection feature, detailed at the link below. The user sees
a rectangle in the spectrogram, which was upper and lower bounds.
https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/spectral_selection.html
PRL
>
> Thomas De Rocker
>
> ------------------------------
> *Van:* Paul Licameli <[email protected]>
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 8 maart 2018 20:20
> *Aan:* audacity-translation; Thomas De Rocker
> *Onderwerp:* Re: Lisp formats are not C formats
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Paul Licameli <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I got this notification from Transifex, forwarding a query from one of
> you, and not sure how to respond at that site, so I write to this mailing
> list:
>
> "
> Error:~%~%Frequency (~a Hz) is too high for track sample rate.~%~%~ Track
> sample rate is ~a Hz~%~ Frequency must be less than ~a Hz.
>
> 1%F is recognized as placeholder - no problem for Dutch translation
> because "frequentie" (nl) starts with f like "frequency", but maybe other
> languages will have problems.
> "
>
> Either I misunderstand the report, or the translator does not understand
> that this is a Lisp-format string, not C-format. So % does not have the
> usual meaning.
>
> The Lisp function called format changes ~% to a newline, so ~%Frequency
> becomes just a newline and then the word -- no relation to the C format %f
> sequence.
>
> Also ~~ becomes ~, and ~ followed by newline is just a break in the string
> to make the format easier to read, and is simply deleted, with following
> whitespace characters, by format.
>
> The ~a sequence is the only placeholder. Unlike with C, there is no need
> in Lisp to distinguish placeholders for strings and for numbers with
> different sequences.
>
> Or is it the .po file editor that is misunderstanding the input and making
> some incorrect warnings about this string? Perhaps then there is a better
> editing program to use instead!
>
>
> You should also know: there are special generated comments in the .pot
> file, that are supposed to identify format strings:
>
> #, c-format
> #, lisp-format
>
> These comments are used in the build to check that the number of
> placeholders in the msgid equals that in the msgstr.
>
> Perhaps a good .po file editor is sensitive to these lines?
>
> I checked this example, and one other that the translator mentioned, and
> indeed the audacity.pot has a #, lisp-format comment, not #, c-format, so I
> hope your editor is good enough not to misinterpret the message as c-format
> when it is clearly marked otherwise.
>
> PRL
>
>
>
>
> PRL
>
>
>
>
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