Re: I am affronted by the presence of god
Yes. This is why I could accept a godlike power or being if it ever showed itself, but it's also why I repudiate any of our current understandings of god. There's too much hypocrisy and too many double standards.
Someone (I misremember who, and am too lazy to dig through this thread again) made the point that suffering is one of the things that makes us human. Even if I grant that this is at least partially true - but let's replace suffering with adversity here - does that mean all suffering, at all times, is necessary? Because, again, I gotta tell ya, that's kind of not a good thing to say. Unless my brother had turned out to be a sexual predator or a serial killer or something - which, by the way, he showed absolutely no signs of being before he died - I can say with 100% certainty that my family would have been fuller and happier with him still alive. And he died fast! He just happened to do it young. GCW's grandmother is another good example. If suffering makes us human, then apparently not suffering makes us inhuman in some fashion? Sounds pretty ridiculous when you put it that way, doesn't it? Since, after all, what you're saying is that in some way, GCW's grandmother's suffering is necessary. Do me a favour and don't tell him that. Or her. And especially don't imply that either or both of them are less than human because they want that suffering to end.
As I've said before, adversity can make us stronger. It teaches us how to deal with failure, with unexpected challenges. If there was a god, I would not want him to simply solve every single problem purely because he could. I would want him to start with the worst of our problems, then work up from there. If the Christian god is so loving, it would be the absolute least he could do, since, after all, Canlorn's characterization of all-powerful is spot on.
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