I agree. I think the general motto should be *'If it sounds good to you, then it sounds good to you.'*
I'd like to share an experience I had over the summer. I work for a mid-size production company in central Minnesota. We have a small line array system (8 cells aside/50,000 watts), and for the summer concert series we do, we had guest sound engineers mixing the bands. Now, the line array is a bit of a beast. It takes time and a careful touch to get everything set up and sounding good. Our general method is simply using the ears - play a CD, set the crossover, walk around, set the main EQ, walk around, and finally notch problematic spots in the spectrum. Most of the time, though, the beast is tamed and it sounds pretty damn good. The first band of the season had a guy fresh out of music school. Their engineer played two tracks, one to set the EQ the way he liked, and one to see where the limits of the system were. He was done in ten minutes, and the show sounded fantastic. The second band of the season was a former 'A' list rocker, currently in the "Where Are They Now" file. Their engineer played a some music, told me to turn down the horns by half, and took 30 minutes to get things in shape. After the show, he was screaming and vowing to never work with us again. "I couldn't get the vocals over the mix!" ("That's because you turned the horns down by half. Guess where the carrying power is in a line array?") He hated our system. The fourth band was a recently popular swing group. (The gig was moved inside due to weather.) He played two tracks, then *got out his computer and diagnotic mic.* I was told to turn the subs down by 20db, and to turn up the high mids by 15db *because that's what the little graph on his laptop was showing him*. I had serious misgivings, but hey, I'm just the system tech. After that ONE reading, he played half a song and walked away. The show sounded great...in one spot in the arena. It was painful and awful nearly everywhere else. I'm coming to the point. What did I learn from this? 1. Our hearing varies greatly from person to person. Classic Rock Soundguy heard our PA much differently than I did. So did several other acts. What sounds good to one person isn't necessarily goign to sound exactly the same (or good, or bad) to another person. Our ears are not precisely the same, nor have they been treated the same. There are many days I wish I could see frequency response charts of my hearing, and compare them to people I work with. 2. Diagnostic equipment is a starting place, and nothing more. In my opinion and experience, it is a foundation to be built upon, not the endpoint of evaluation. If Swing Group Soundguy was going to rely so heavily on his pretty bar graph, he should have taken 5 more readings in the room and averaged them, and THEN gone back and played 3 more songs and -listened-. Some author wrote -Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.-He meant it in a different way, but I think its applicable to this situation: Swing Guy was using his eyes to listen. 3. Context, context, context. The line array sounds different every time we're outside. Wind and humidity actually make a huge difference in how it sounds. Having a crowd in front of it changes how it sounds. Likewise, think of the differences room treatments make in how your home systems sound. How do measuring instruments account for the drapes in your home? The unpainted drywall in your garage? Anywhere else you've put a sound system? 4. The importance of knowing the sound of a certain album, or two or three tracks of a mix CD. I have a mix I take with me everywhere I go, and I listen to it on every possible combination of equipment. It's my belief that I know exactly how they sound, and that is my diagnostic tool when I calibrate or evaluate a sound system. Since I know so specifically how 'Gaslighting Abby' by Steely Dan and 'Cut Chemist Suite' by Ozomatli and ..., I can take that CD anywhere and say, "This is how your system is different from my system." Where we get lost in all this is saying -my system sounds better than your system-. Wrong. It sounds *different*. Whether that difference is good or bad is in the ear of the beholder. -- flattop100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ flattop100's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28368 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles