Themis;350875 Wrote: 
> But I strongly disagree about your distortion level example : If a lot
> of people can hear differences between -say- different speaker cables
> or even between microphones, although CCIR/ITU-R ABX tests prove that
> no-one hears any differences of that level anyway, then, probably, the
> famous ABX tests methodology is broken and/or there's a factor that we
> forgot to consider.

Eh?

jeffmeh;350956 Wrote: 
> At the risk of opening up the classic objectivist/subjectivist black
> hole, I have never understood this argument.
> 
> With all due respect, if:
> 1) A specific individual claims he can hear the difference between A
> and B when he knows which one he is hearing, and
> 2) That individual cannot differentiate A from B in an double-blind
> test, and
> 3) This scenario is repeated every time, for many tests, with many
> individuals, and
> 4) Countless studies across disciplines have demonstrated that the
> placebo effect is real
> 
> Then why is it reasonable to conclude that there is something wrong
> with the tests, rather than that none of these individuals can really
> hear the difference?

Seconded.  You seem like a reasonable person, Themis - can you
elaborate?


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