brjoon1021;624087 Wrote: > "My belief is that there is too much (information - to be recorded) > there for current digital parameters to capture as well as analog > can." > > I did say analog, not "vinyl" here as some of you started talking about > digitally ripping copies of your records. I wasn't talking about that. I > was referring to whether digital recordings can capture the information > of a live event as well as analog recordings can. I know that most all > recordings that end up on vinyl now were made digitally at the time the > recording was made. I have not referred to any of those. I don't have > any vinyl records of anything recorded after early-70's except for Jazz > at the Pawnshop, Police and R.E.M. - Good point... do you have both > the CD and LP of Jazz at the Pawnsho[? Compare them. GREAT RECORDING. > Both sound great but many people think that the vinyl has more of the > live feel of the location than the CD. Why ? I don't know. The CD is > great but vinyl records sound more real to me many times. R.E.M. comes > to mind. Their records sound better than their CDs to me. Maybe the guy > that mastered the CDs was not so great, don't know... > > To clarify my analog vs digital assertion: I think a big studio tape > would sound better than a top-of-the-line digital recording of the very > same piece, in other words. I have not had the opportunity to hear > either. I have only heard vinyl and CD. My aforementioned Engineer > buddy has done a lot of studio recording and setting up studios with > his speakers, amps and various other shite he makes (well). He > emphatically says that the best digital recordings do not sound as good > as the same event recorded on analog. Just an anecdote. Nothing more. > > Ultimately, it comes down to what you like as someone else said here. > Speakers are wildly inaccurate compared to any artifacts we are talking > about adding by a stylus or other vinyl playback equipment. We are > already listening to frequency response inaccuracies. Our rooms add a > lot more coloration after that.... I was only trying to make a few > points: > > 1. to me, most vinyl records sound more "there" than the CD of the same > event. I don't know if there is any way to prove that records have more > or less information to be gotten from the groove than a CD has in bits. > > > 2. MP3s are not the same as a CD when you listen to familiar, complex > material over a system that you know the material on... (your music, > your system). > > By the way, I have ribbon tweeters and really fast sealed-cabinet > speakers. I don't like soft and flabby sound - referring to the > glossing effect of vinyl being possibly what I prefer about vinyl. I > listen to digital sources most of the time, too. > > I probably won't add any more comments as this is kind of running > aground, but a fun topic.
Having worked with "big studio tape decks", Modern digital recording (post ~1990, 24/96 and beyond) can easily outstrip even the most well aligned, well-engineered 0.5 inch mastering tape decks with the best quality virgin tapes and nothing is lost in translation. In fact it's rather the opposite - the digital is somewhat more revealing, which a lot of people don't care for. Certainly the extra 20-25dB of noise floor reduction is worth having... because it removes the need for Dolby/dBX NR each of which have their own problems... As for 2 inch tape with 24 tracks... digital easily beats that. It's worth bearing in mind that analogue tape is effectively a "quantum" medium in so far as the smallest detectable changes in magnetic flux are determined by the size of the mag particles on tape... it's not a case of infinite "resolution" :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85590 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
