iPhone wrote: > . > Which is exactly why Richard Vandersteen designed his Subs the way he > did. It is basically like adding an additional lower bass driver to any > Speaker when used in pairs because the speakers base driver no longer > goes all the way down as it is rolled off and crossed over where the Sub > takes it the rest of the way to the bottom. This is why there are no > issues or compromise like with the Line Level setting one has with > standard add on Subs. Most add-on Line Level Subs sound great when the > system is at lower volumes because the level has been set to accent and > provide additional and extended bass, but as the system volume increases > this sweet spot goes away and the Sub is overly loud and muddies up the > overall system since it is a Line Level driven device. > > Just my thoughts, anyway Vandersteen basically took the advantages of an > Acoustat 2+2 Speakers with their passive sub and the advantages of an > active sub figuring out the way to use the advantages of both types > without any of the disadvantages both happen to have. > > There are many brands of great Subs out there and many different ones > work great when paired with specific speakers having specific needs > that those Subs fill if one is lucky enough to get the right Sub with > the right Mains. I got tried of buying and selling Subs trying to match > things up. The Vandersteen Subs work whether one has Planar, Ribbon, > Electrostatics, or Dynamic Speakers. The pair of Vandersteen Subs I > bought to use with my Apogee Acoustic ribbon speakers are the same pair > I have with my Vandersteen 3A Signatures (the poor man's Quatro Speakers > when paired with Vandersteen Subs). > .
Hi iPhone! I think your post makes a lot of sense. I took a different route, by getting a pair of (stand-mount, to suit my room) full-range speakers which I am comfortable with first & then getting hold of the same manufacturer's subwoofers which unsurprisingly are a good match for their own full-range speakers: I use a speaker level input which has an impedance of 10KOhm & consequently has no effect whatsoever on the power amplifier driving my 8Ohm nominal speakers, but permits the active crossover & equalisation in the subwoofer circuitry to make full use of their in-built 500W Class D amplifiers to extend their LF response. It's actually quite amusing: the (outboard) tweeters in my 2-way speakers have a transmission-line loading, the 6" Kevlar squawker/woofer is housed in a heavily braced bass reflex enclosure (with a flared & dimpled front facing port in a precisely-located position - it is an integral part of the driver housing & the whole assembly is then bolted into the cabinet as one piece) & finally my subwoofers are opposed drivers, firing sideways, in a sealed enclosure! But, it works for me & produces very musical sounds in my listening room. My tactic is to buy as much as possible of my gear second-hand which essentially means that I could sell it for more or less as much as I have paid for it, were I to decide to make some changes... With regard to your closing comment that your Vandersteen 3A Signatures are the "poor man's" Quatro speakers, I can only conclude (with regard to the rest of your kit) that poverty is a relative concept! :D Btw, what vintage is your Thunderbird? Dave :cool: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Golden Earring's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108865 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles