Nick As a mobile DJ for 12 years BC (Before Children !), I remember all too well the song "Pump Up The Volume" by MARRs which hit the dance floors way back in 1987.
It consisted almost totally of samples cleverly joined together, but after becoming a night club hit, the lawyers for all the artists they'd sampled got involved and the group disappeared from the charts forever. Even today, there are big dollars exchanged before artists use samples from other tunes, and most of those are a few seconds long. For a bit more perspective on the issue, see the following web site: http://www.informationblast.com/Sampling_(music).html I do not profess a knowledge of the present Australian laws relating to copyright, but APRA, the Australasian Performing Rights Association, do not seem to agree with Lisa Turner on this. To quote from http://www.apra.com.au/licence/recfaqs.htm: "Sampling a small section of another recording is subject to the approval of the publisher who owns the copyright in the song and the record company that owns the copyright in the sound recording that has been copied. It is usually advisable to provide the publisher and record company with a demonstration tape of your intended usage with a clear explanation of how the sample is used to assist them in making their decision. The publisher and record company will advise whether your intended use of the sample may go ahead and the relevant conditions and licence fees. " If we are going to promote gliding, then not only does the flying on the video need to be lawful, but the use of the background music also. Otherwise the "GFA Millions" might be eroded by a single lawsuit claiming breach of copyright. Cheers Jason Armistead On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:09:07 +1000, Nick Gilbert wrote > Lisa Turner tells me that you can use whatever music you like, as > long as it is for 30 seconds or less. I'm sure if you picked 29 > second graps of songs that fit what is going on in the video with > some dialogue it might sound OK.Certainly better than silence. > > Nick. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Armistead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:19 PM > Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding Movies > > > Adam > > > > One of the great problems with "cool music" is that it costs BIG $$$ to > > license its use legally. > > > > A few years ago at our Forbes summer camp, a local who did all sorts of > > documentaries, etc. came out and filmed during a day or two's flying, all > > using professional equipment. He got a couple of flights in a two-seater, > > and took some air-to-air footage as well. > > > > When edited it came down to just 6 minutes and 15 seconds of footage. > > > > Unfortunately, he added as backing music the remix of the Kenny Loggins > > track "Playing with the Boys", from the Top Gun soundtrack. It was not > > licensed, so effectively we got left with some well-edited gliding footage > on > > DV tape without a usable soundtrack. > > > > I made some inquiries regarding the licensing fees, and we were looking at > > well over $10K in US Dollars. So bye, bye to that idea. And that was for > a > > song which was released in 1986. Try and pick up the rights to a song > > released recently and you might get a very nasty surprise at the cost. > > > > One of our members who was in the TV production game got a friend who does > > studio music for their programs to create a sound-alike track, different > > enough to avoid the lawyers, but still with the same catchy sort of tune > > (enough to recognise its origins). However, to edit that back onto the > tape > > also means I have to re-capture the other sounds of tugs taking off and > > taxiing, varios making that wonderful beep, beep noise, etc. This is > simply > > not a trivial exercise, so until I get some serious time to spend on it, > it > > remains an unfinished project. > > > > I sent a CD with the video converted to Windows Media format to Terry > Cubley, > > the GFA Development Officer, with a suggestion that footage like ours > might > > make a better promotion of the sport than re-hashed footage from Lucy > Learns > > to Fly, but that it required GFA to spend serious $$$ if they wanted a > well- > > known soundtrack behind it. My idea never flew ... but at least I tried. > > > > If someone out there is prepared to host the Windows Media version of this > > video, then I would try and do a quick edit of the soundtrack so that it > > could be viewed by those interested in this sort of project. > > > > Regards > > > > Jason Armistead > > > > > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:14:26 +1000, Adam Woolley wrote > > > G'day SDF and all, > > > > > > I've got a great clip of the UK Juniors just doing 'Competition > > > Finishes', close formation flying and aerobatics! Goes for 15 > > > minutes and is action pacted with cool background music! You can > > > check their website out at www.smokinvid.co.uk > > > > > > The juniors of Aus are hoping to do something very simular so we can > > > promote gliding to all ages, but mostly the under 30's! Just need a > > > couple of camera's now and we'll be able to get cracking! > > > > > > I'm just in the process of organising a uni student from the > > > Sunshine Coast to come to the Aussie Junior Nats and tape the whole > > > event! This is so we can get some professional footage to make a > > > promotional (What is gliding etc), exciting 'competition finish', > > > and a celebration of the FUN times had at the comp video's! > > > Hopefully we'll have this on DVD and VHS. > > > > > > The reason for organising this, is that I've seen so many cool > > > video's of hang-gliding and wanted to get something started like > > > this for all gliding competitions! I think we should definately try > > > to get something going for the Multi-Class Nats in Dalby, possibly > > > a uni student and pay for their accom and meals?? but the key point > > > is that we get some shots of ladies cruising around the grids in > bikini's!! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Adam Woolley > > > Woolley Pup Pup > > > > > > P.s. I don't know how exciting a diamond height gain would be, but > > > the other's sound great! Just needs lots of colours, good music > > > (non of this opera stuff) and FUN times! > > > > > > >From: "skf1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in > > > >Australia."<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in > > > >Australia.'"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Wicket Cam for Gliding Movie > > > >Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:31:34 +1000 > > > > > > > >Guys and Gals, > > > > > > > >What is the scope and target audience of the proposed Gliding Movie? > > > > > > > >The reason I am asking is, I have recently seen some great sport > > > >presentations 30 to 60 minutes on sports including paragliding, > canoeing, > > > >scuba, and they make the activities look very exciting. I have not > seen > > > >any > > > >similar footage on gliding. But I am sure that the right people with > the > > > >right equipment could make our sport look exciting. Some one > preparation > > > >for > > > >a long cross country, a safari, or a diamond height gain where no one > has > > > >done one before. > > > > > > > >Personally I would like to see all our competitions filmed in a similar > way > > > >we see cycling, car rallies, and other sports that are not contained in > an > > > >arena filmed and packaged. The complete event is then presented in 40 > to 60 > > > >minutes of footage - I believe that a Gliding Comp could be made to > look > > > >very exciting. > > > > > > > >This kind of exposure would educate people that we don't fly round and > > > >round > > > >over airfields and it is a serious sport. This should attract people to > > > >gliding who may have written the sport off as not for them because of > > > >misconceptions. That's the dream - can we make it reality? > > > > > > > >What do think > > > > > > > >SDF > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Love Movies? You'll love HomeScreen. 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