I agree with Ian.  When I started gliding at 20 years of age, time was the
problem, not cost or older club members.  In fact, my experience was that
the older club members were most encouraging.  


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Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 6:00 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] mining past glider pilots

Patching wrote:

> I've said it before and I'll say it again... The big factor in not 
> retaining people in our sport is TIME not COST or OFITTH. 

No, Ian, that isn't true at all.

People will think nothing of spending an entire winter day playing
footy, or an entire summer day playing cricket (followed up by
socializing in the bar).

I simply refuse to believe that people will balk at spending exactly
the same time committment gliding (particularly when it's followed up
by socializing in the bar).

If someone has an active lifestyle, spending time on recreation goes
hand-in-hand with having recreational persuits in the first place.
Our problem isn't that people don't have time, our problem is that
people don't want to spend their recreational time in the presence of
facially-hirsute old farts who treat them like idiots.

These people seriously undercut the good efforts that other members
try to put in place to make newcomers feel welcome.  It only needs
one antisocial arsehole to make someone think, "I'm supposed to be
having a good time, but here I am on my day off getting told-off by
someone I don't even know.  I wouldn't let my best friend talk to
me like that, so why am I putting up with this complete stranger
treating me like crap?"  Anyone subjected to that kind of treatment
is going to spend their next weekend rockclimbing, playing cricket,
washing the car, or doing any of the other countless billions of
activities it's possible to do without being insulted by geriatric
old farts.

   - mark

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