Well one was two USAF test pilot school graduates from at least 3500 feet AGL.
Mike > On 27 Dec 2014, at 7:03 pm, Paul Bart <pb2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I wonder how many of them were off a winch from 1200 ft? > > Cheers > > Paul > >> On Dec 27, 2014 8:29 PM, "druddock" <drudd...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >> From memory there have been about 26 fatalities as a result of spin training >> in the Puchaz. >> If you want to release the controls in a spin go ahead but please don't take >> anyone with you >> >> >> Sent from Samsung Mobile >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Anthony Smith <anthony.sm...@adelaide.on.net> >> Date: >> To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" >> <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> >> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ASK21 spinning was Re: Spin training >> >> >> Bergfalke IV decays into a spiral dive unless pro spin controls are held. >> If you hold pro spin controls, it still decays into a spiral dive after >> three or so rotations. >> >> >> >> Bocian used to stay in a spin until positive recovery controls were applied. >> Cath Conway told me way back when that anything Polish liked to spin. >> >> >> >> Anyone tried letting go of the controls in a spin with a Puchaz? >> >> >> >> >> >> From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net >> [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Peter (PCS3) >> Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2014 7:57 PM >> To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> Subject: [Aus-soaring] ASK21 spinning was Re: Spin training >> >> >> >> Page (v) >> 7. Some spins continued indefinitely if controls were released during the >> developed spin. >> How many other gliders do this? I am pretty sure the Blanik self recovers >> from a spin but have never tested it! :-) >> PeterS >> >> On 27/12/2014 8:26 AM, Ulrich Stauss wrote: >> >> http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/john.cochrane/research/Data_and_Programs/CFI/AFFTC-TR-89-27%20Spin%20Test.pdf >> >> >> >> Ulrich >> >> >> >> From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net >> [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sanders >> Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2014 08:44 >> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. >> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Spin training >> >> >> >> Bernard, good morning, i would lke o read that report too please? >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> On 27 December 2014 at 08:18, Bernhard <ec...@internode.on.net> wrote: >> >> Hello Paul, good morning all >> >> >> >> You might be interested to know that the US Air Force has already been using >> the ASK21 for spin training over several >> >> decades. >> >> >> >> Therefore you might want to refer to a report by the US Air Force on the >> spin characteristics of the ASK 21. It was done >> >> by experts in the field and true professionals. When you read the report >> you will find that it was perhaps the most >> >> comprehensive study into the subject ever done. >> >> >> >> To save you digging around I have attached a copy for you! >> >> >> >> Kind regards to all >> >> >> >> Bernard >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 26 Dec 2014, at 10:05 pm, Paul Bart <pb2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On 26 December 2014 at 19:33, Daryl Mackay <darylmac...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Suffice to say no instructor willingly uses the ASK21 for spin awareness >> training at Beverley. >> >> >> >> Hi Daryl >> >> >> >> Would you mind explaining why? This is a genuine inquiry as my club is about >> to take a delivery of one. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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