On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 10:08, Stephen McConnell wrote:
> Leo Simons wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 08:48, Stephen McConnell wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Maybe it would be a good idea to include in this document some links to 
> >>some of the other Avalon containers.  The current content suggests 
> >>Phoenix as a starting point which is a little like learning to swim at 
> >>the deep end of the pool.  It could be interesting to reference Tweety 
> >>and the entry point, followed by Merlin and Fortress dealing with cause 
> >>grained components, and wrapping up Phoenix at the application level.
> >>
> >>Thoughts?
> >
> >I don't really like it. I feel our documentation should point to
> >released and easily downloadable software; atm, the only containers with
> >that status are phoenix and ECM, and I feel it is a good idea to not
> >stimulate usage of ECM.
> 
> Totally agree on the ECM point - however - I concerned about the very 
> high learning curve the Phoenix represents in terms of an entry point. 

yup. It's got a bit of an 'enterprise' feel to it doesn't it ;)

>  Ok - on Fortress and Merlin there isn't a trealease status for good 
> reasons.  On Tweety I think the scenario is different bacause I don't 
> think Tweety should be released - it should be part of the getting 
> started with Avalon walk though.  I.e. is about eduction and delivering 
> concrete examples.  Does the publication of good informative and 
> eductional content require that we go through a product release 
> procedure?  Surely not.

my idea here is that a release cycle makes sure everything is bugfree.
Also, tweety is so far a model example of the way development of an
avalon component can go and the release thing is only part of that.

> I'm in favour of making things understandable based on useful examples 
> and demonstrations.

me too. I'm kinda stuck in my avalon-for-beginners howto though. I think
the approach I chose is wrong and am reworking to do things more
concept-by-concept. The example application for that should be something
real like infomover :D

help welcome........doc-writing is hard.......

cheers,

- Leo




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